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Old 01-07-2011, 10:14 PM
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Turner, J.W. Jr., Nemeth, R., Rogers, C. 2003. Measurement of fecal glucocorticoids in parrotfish to assess stress. General and Comparative Endocrinology 133 (2003) 341-352
Interesting that 4 pages of debate have happened over an article with a single reference that isn't even relevant to the fish we keep. What base line is drawn for showing stress? Are there any other types of fish that this was tested on? The article is a lacking allot of scientific structure.
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:30 PM
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Well, surely beat the tang police assumption that a tang is stressed in a 90 gallons as they have absolutely zero reference or study to back it up, just their own personal assumption

This article may have only one reference, plus the personal experience of the aquarium administrator who wrote it, but it is interesting reading and informative, not just biased opinion.

I was happy to learn that a hippo tang does not cover thousand of kilometer a day in the ocean...as I was mearely told by a lot of people and which was the main argument against keeping a hippo tang in a smaller tank than 180 gallons.


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Interesting that 4 pages of debate have happened over an article with a single reference that isn't even relevant to the fish we keep. What base line is drawn for showing stress? Are there any other types of fish that this was tested on? The article is a lacking allot of scientific structure.
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As for the ethics of keeping animals in glass boxes - that's always going to be a matter of opinion, but one would think that everyone here had to come to peace with that little conundrum by now.
+1 i got a good laugh from this
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Old 01-09-2011, 03:21 PM
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Okay I admit, I am a little jealous that he has so much more wood than I do. The reason for which will become apparent in a few days.
Ummmm it's ok Kien I really don't need to see your wood
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