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Old 12-30-2010, 02:39 PM
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Low pH is usually from CO2 content. Many people who run Ca reactors experience lower pH. Some possible solutions:
  • Introduce fresh air by running skimmer air intake to outside air
  • Reverse refugium lighting (refugium lights on when tank lights off)
  • Supplement Ca and Alk with Kalkwasser or Calcium Hydroxide (reacts with CO2 and maintains high pH)
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Old 12-30-2010, 03:44 PM
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The commonts below are accurate. In addition, and as noted previously, keeping pH is consistent is the main concern.

Over my years of reefing I always had a lower pH due to how aggesively I ran my calcium reactor..........it never impacted my corals.

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Low pH is usually from CO2 content. Many people who run Ca reactors experience lower pH. Some possible solutions:
  • Introduce fresh air by running skimmer air intake to outside air
  • Reverse refugium lighting (refugium lights on when tank lights off)
  • Supplement Ca and Alk with Kalkwasser or Calcium Hydroxide (reacts with CO2 and maintains high pH)
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Old 12-30-2010, 09:07 PM
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The commonts below are accurate. In addition, and as noted previously, keeping pH is consistent is the main concern.

Over my years of reefing I always had a lower pH due to how aggesively I ran my calcium reactor..........it never impacted my corals.
Thanks for your input. I think I'll go with a kalk reactor for now. It will automate my top off and ca/alk supplementation and fix the pH problem at the same time. I have a reactor hanging around so I'll give it a shot.
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Old 12-31-2010, 05:26 PM
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I'd check your probe calibration. Maybe your test kit is giving a false reading and your probe is calibrated to an incorrect set point. If your using a calibration solution, make sure that it is temperature adjusted. Clean the probe before calibrating, but let it readjust to the tank water for a day or so first.

Try testing a cup of water outside of the tank. Perhaps there is interference, from stray voltages or other probes.

I think with some controllers, the temperature probe acts as a ground. Try moving the Ph probe closer or further from the temp probe.

Take your test kit to a LFS and test their water. See if they get the same result with their probe or test kit. I had a similar problem and when I replaced my controller the new Ph measurements were much closer to where I wanted them to be. Lots of testing later, I decided it was accurate.

What you reay don't want to is to increase your Ph to 9.0 because your reading was out by .5

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Just a "for what it's worth" experience. I once found my pH was reading 7.6 or lower consistently. I panicked, and started trying to figure it out, tons of reading, a couple of discussions with Randy Holmes-Farley, testing at the LFS, etc. Realistically, if it was really 7.6 or lower, I should have seen my tank contents dissolving. I got new probes, new test kits, and kept getting low readings (I too was aggressive with my Ca reactor). I eventually solved my pH problem by throwing my meter over my back fence. That particualr tank went several more years successfully growing corals to the point I had to throw frags over the same back fence.

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A low pH won't typically cause issues but the thing with corals is they can usually handle one or two issues without concern but add a third and you could be in trouble. Just like in the wild the increased amount of CO2 is lowering the pH but it's not until other factors including elevated temperatures are added that the reefs become really vulnerable.

So although a low pH isn't a huge concern it will make your reef more vulnerable if you experience temperature or lighting changes. It's also a pretty easy fix with Kalk which will also precipitate phosphate so a win, win situation. Just always remember to make changes slowly.
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Old 12-31-2010, 07:21 PM
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I eventually solved my pH problem by throwing my meter over my back fence.




haha priceless and effective love it calibrate it right over the fence !!!
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Just a "for what it's worth" experience. I once found my pH was reading 7.6 or lower consistently. I panicked, and started trying to figure it out, tons of reading, a couple of discussions with Randy Holmes-Farley, testing at the LFS, etc. Realistically, if it was really 7.6 or lower, I should have seen my tank contents dissolving. I got new probes, new test kits, and kept getting low readings (I too was aggressive with my Ca reactor). I eventually solved my pH problem by throwing my meter over my back fence. That particualr tank went several more years successfully growing corals to the point I had to throw frags over the same back fence.

I think sometimes we worry too much about things we shouldn't...
Excellent post. Couldn't agree more.

Personally, I think if you've done everything to try to raise pH naturally and none of that works there is no reason to push the problem.

One other thing to think about is the fact that organic breakdown creates different acids as by-products. These acids will affect pH as well, so preventing organic breakdown is another way to raise pH. The use of a good skimmer to remove organics before they breakdown, well designed flow to prevent detritus settling and breaking down, light stocking of fish to minimize fish poop and excess food, and possibly the use of a filter sock or floss media to catch suspended materials (changed at least twice weekly) are all good ways to prevent organic breakdown.

Usually nitrate and phosphate are signs of organic breakdown, but a well maintained tank will process these nutrients so you don't get a reading on your test kits.
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Hmm I just had an idea, if a low PH is the cause of high CO2 from the house not being aired and such. If I add a small air pump to the sump let's say, do you guys think this will help to bring the PH up?.
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