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11-23-2010, 02:19 AM
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Frozen eating mandarins come up for sale in stores very now and then and if you're lucky it may survive in a nano tank. Being as this is your first tank why don't you want to start off with more simple/hardier live stock to keep. A pair of clown fish, small flasher or fairy wrasse, small gobies, royal gramma, etc. All of these fish can have spectacular coloring and are entertaining to watch without any specialized care. Gobies and scooter blennies will bounce around the rocks just as mandarins do. Through some easy to keep soft corals in there, a couple of shrimp and snails and you will have an active, vibrant and easy to keep nano reef. If this turns into a hobby you really enjoy start a larger tank and get a mandarin when you feel you have the skill to keep one alive. Good Luck!
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11-23-2010, 12:52 PM
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well as i said this isn't happening over night and the mandarin is not going to be my frist fish in the tank. this will happen in a couple years time. i plan on runing live rock and sand for a good six months to establish the system then add animals as need. algee crabs or something. just taking my time with it. i wanted a mandarin for a long long time. i love its colours patterns. my goal is to keep it happy. right now i need help with getting the set up started whats the best way to keep water clean and healthly. should i run a skimmer or will a fliter and water changes do. with macro in the tank. thoughts?
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11-23-2010, 03:05 PM
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I kept my pair of Mandys in a 12 gallon aquapod for over a year, never fed this tank even once.
The key? the tank was already established for 2 year and the left most rear chamber was jam packed with LR rubble in the bottom 2/3 and chaeto in the top 1/3. This chamber creates a microfauna paradise that the predatory fish cannot access and deplete the reproductive potential. At lights on, the sand literally looke alive due to all the micro fauna this system produced. If you're serious about doing a mandarin in a nano, the aquapod or biocube is a fantastic way to go. you will not be adding any fish to it for at least 6 months though. Last edited by gobytron; 11-23-2010 at 05:15 PM.
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11-23-2010, 05:03 PM
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intarsia a scooter blenny is a scooter dragonet , same as a mandarin . There easyer to train to eat frozen or flake thats all ,there are lots of people training mandarins to eat frozen food , just do some reaserch and you will see its posible . Im going to do the same thing with a 15 gal long and my lfs has 5 madarins that all eat only frozen for sale when my setup is ready for them .
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11-23-2010, 08:04 PM
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I think everyone has covered it here but it's doable to do what you are aiming for.
For keeping the mandarin: -Live rock rubble pile that you feed everyday -Use old rock from an existing system. Helps seed the tank with pods faster. -Let the tank mature (I was able to get a mandarin after 7 months) -Feed rotifers, nannochloropsis, coral freny, etc to help keep the pod population up -You can probably ween the mandarin onto frozen in time. I've never had to do this. The mandarin is nice and fat and I've never seen him do anything other than pick at the rocks -You can use a pod production system like they do in non-photosynthetic tanks but that's probably a little extreme for just a mandarin. You could to a miniature half-assed version though. -You can keep almost anything with a mandarin as everything else just seems to ignore them. Watch out for crabs, lobsters, etc that will go for slow moving fish though. Hermits and shrimp are fine with mandarins As for a set-up: -Go for a 20g. Trust me. You will want to upgrade within 3 months if you have a 10g. -Plan on some corals. It will happen. -Use a sump if you can. IMO they're cheaper and more effective than the hobby filters with more flexibility in what you can do with them. You can make it into a sump/refugium and crank out pods from there as well. -On a tank this size you can get away without a skimmer if you are good about your water changes. I ran a very packed 20g with just water changes (10 to 25%) and a aquaclear HOB filter for a good 8 months very successfully before upgrading to a very packed 40g with a skimmer. -Don't get a maroon goldstrip clownfish. They're a$$holes. Over all, it is possible to keep a mandarin in a smaller tank; you just need to go about it smartly and be prepared that you might have some "hiccups" along the way. When looking for information on how to do things in reef aquariums you will find that you can ask two different reefers on how to do something and you'll get three different opinions. Do your homework, make your own informed decisions and come up with a plan to achieve what you want. I do (or have done) a lot of things that people say don't work or I can't do but I have done them with success.
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#6
11-23-2010, 10:27 PM
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yea everything is a possibility ive been thinking about using the 10 gal as a sump refuge i just think its small for both. if im going to have a fuge id like it to be display as well. maybe a hemit or two somthing like that. if ou could any other tips on eliminating some of these hiccupps.
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11-23-2010, 11:35 PM
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there are some fantastic HOB fuges that would easily double as a second display...just hang them on the side of the tank if you can rather than the back....just an idea.
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11-24-2010, 03:37 AM
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