LF: Mangrove Pods

BlueWorldAquatic · #1 11-18-2010, 02:40 PM

If you have "mud" then you can just plant them.

If not, you can just have them floating or semi-sumerged as long as the roots are underwater. Some people just use styrofoam.

Make sure you give the stem a freswater sponge bath ever so ofter, as that is how it expells the salt.

minimal light is needed, and as long as you keep it limited to 2 -3 leaves, it will remain stunted. You don't need a 20+ foot tree growing out of your sump.

Ken

sphelps · #2 11-18-2010, 02:52 PM

Mangroves can get their nutrients in too ways, either from the water with the roots or from the light with the leaves. The idea is to keep the number of leaves down to just a few like Ken mentioned so they are forced to use the water as their primary source for nutrients.

paddyob · #3 11-18-2010, 02:57 PM

How many do you require for a system? Or is it all preferential?

BlueWorldAquatic · #4 11-18-2010, 02:59 PM

1 per 25gal of water will work well.

Ken

don.ald · #5 11-18-2010, 03:18 PM

really, thats all? 1 per 25g

Zoaelite · #6 11-18-2010, 07:45 PM

I'm a little confused why you guys are trying to stunt their growth and SP out of curiosity where did you read this?

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Mangroves can get their nutrients in too ways, either from the water with the roots or from the light with the leaves. The idea is to keep the number of leaves down to just a few like Ken mentioned so they are forced to use the water as their primary source for nutrients.

More leaves means more photosynthesis which means more nutrients are needed to fix carbon dioxide into a food source. Class C3 plants don't have two ways to get nutrients, they have the pathway of photosynthesis and if you remove the light you kill the plant end of story.

A healthy large plant that has a high rate of photosynthesis requires nitrogen and other compounds to synthesis proteins (As they lack the ability to turn their produced 3-phosphoglycerate directly into a protein compound).

So as larger plants have a greater rate of photosynthesis and thus will have a higher net metabolic rate they will in turn take in more nutrient compounds from their roots. Fat people eat more food why wouldn't fat plants do the same

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1 per 25gal of water will work well.

Ken

1 per 25 will certainly make a dent but if you are looking for a bit more filtration you can increase that number greatly. I have around 100 running on the 350g so 1 plant per 3.5 gallons.

This photo was taken 03-28-2010

and this is them right now:

and these are the bro's:
07-06-2010

09-23-2010

Two other quick points:
-Mangroves replace excess intracellular sodium ions with magnesium so having a large stand of them can deplete Mg ions out of the water. Dosing a Mg supplement will counteract this.
-As Ken said spraying them down (A good 1-2 min spray down) is needed every so often. Also watch for yellowing/ dead leaves as the plant pumps excess sodium into these and then undergoes apoptosis to remove them. Make sure you remove these before they start decaying in your water.
Levi

sphelps · #7 11-18-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by zoaElite

I'm a little confused why you guys are trying to stunt their growth and SP out of curiosity where did you read this?

I'm not sure I remember the exact source but this is typical advice for mangroves, I actually haven't seen much to support not pruning. Even J&L recommends limiting the leaves
http://www.jlaquatics.com/phpstore/s..._ID=i-mangrove
Not that J&L is a solid source, if I come across something I'll post. Pretty sure though that leaves need to pruned to keep up good nutrient export from the water but I'm no biologist.