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Old 11-04-2010, 02:14 AM
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Hi Paul
good luck! Ill keep using you, -hope you keep it rolling
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Old 11-04-2010, 02:21 AM
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Personally I am glad that Oceanic Corals will no longer be using Canreef as an advertising media to promote their sales. OC promoting their business was starting to overwhelm the posts on Canreef.
I don't know how you describe overwhelming but I don't consider 1 or 2 threads a week started by vendors to be overwhelming. They may be long threads sometimes but that's because it does make more sense to post pics of what you are selling rather than just describing it. And also people do post questions in those threads too. And if you don't like to read them it does say who started the thread.
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Old 11-04-2010, 02:34 AM
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Haah I just realized that the guy claiming Paul is overwhelming the forum with posts actually has more posts than Paul. Someone FAILED mathematics.

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Old 11-04-2010, 02:47 AM
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hard to believe all of this came about over a question of wether or not certain corals from oceanic were "brand name". Its really quite sad seeing a vendor of such quality leave a community as close as the canreef crew. I mean, in most cases its not what the name of the coral/product is it is the value to the consumer. there are many companies out there that claim to have a similar product to another and even sell "fake items" to people (watches, handbags, etc).

In Oceanics case they jumped through all of the necessary hoops to provide us with these. I am really glad to see all of the support that you guys have gotten. You deserve it.
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:08 AM
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"If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all."

Seems like common sense to me. Too bad common sense is surprisingly uncommon.

To have come to this is a black eye for the community. I'm very saddened by this.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:06 AM
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DISCLAIMER: i am a short time reefer..cronic surfer and lurker.. new to the hobby. so basically what im about to say doesnt amount to any credibility just my thoughts on the matter.

i have read all the arguments and fights over this situation and the way i look at it is if there is a will there is a way. vendor or no vender.

i personally have not ordered from oceanic corals. i just have this huge crutch living in the crotch of canada. the shipping doesnt make it worth the while unless its a huge group order. and those can be a nightmare in itself. buti will say this for them any new product or new idea they where on top of it. sure they did a plethera of threads but that also backfires whenthey sho cost and everything thier competiors canmatch or beat if they wanted.. to me they stuck thier neckout more than onenwould think. and thats just gusty and i love it

not tomentionn through thier add threads i have researched andlearned ideas and theories for my tanks, and i thank you for that.

but paul even though you dont know me or havent talked to me or even know that this flatland reefer exists. i have followed your companies nano threads to your led ideas. i paid attention and dont really care how you aquire the shiny things that make us all drool just happy that you have and did ..making this reefer oooh and awee.

so please if your reading this reconcider as you can see from the support base you are well liked and respected as well as a needed voice inthe reefing community. besides if you get through this it will just make you a more respected, stronger company.

just my 2 cents ill shut u now and go back to my vodka dosing.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:12 AM
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I would appreciate if people can refrain from twisting what I'm about to say....

I'm truly sorry you feel you must go. I do feel partly to blame and wish our confrontation was avoided.

You obviously have your customer service down with so many well wishing customers showing support. I wish you luck and a possible change of heart?

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Old 11-04-2010, 08:49 AM
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look i dont know what happend and honestly it dont matter. he had an awsome store with beautiful corals and healthy livestock(which is more then i can say for alot of stores)and hes super helpful and friendly so sponser or not he still has customers
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Old 11-04-2010, 09:27 AM
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This is harsh. OC has been a pioneering force for aquaculture in Canada. This industry is highly competitive, and it would be foolish to dismiss them as anything less than competition. But I am torn between the loss of competition, and the loss of what is very likely the future of the industry (my industry). If these people are shut down because of their efforts to farm captive corals, it does not bode well for the hobby (and by the same hand...our industry). The future of the hobby and industry is aquaculture. End of story. The time will come when our imports are restricted. The reasons are debatable, but the time will come. It's quite sad that the most environmentally conscious are the first to suffer. It's not cheap to farm corals, breed fish, and support regulated collection. I have had respect for OC since we started because of their progressive attitude. It is truly sad to see the future of our hobby suffering so badly...

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Old 11-04-2010, 01:07 PM
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Guys/Gals, keep this in proper context. They are leaving as a sponsor, not going out of business. Letting someone push you to quit is just not the way to leave.

I have to admit, Canreef is a great forum, especially in Alberta & BC, look at the locations of most of the members and regional posts. The members know which sponsors care, and which sponsors use this as part of their advertising budget. The posts show it all.

I can hardly go a day at the store without a CanReef member coming in.

It is and will be a large part of our business' but not all of it.

It is unfortunate the OTHER competitors need to resort to "low blows" or starting rumors, but you know what? Who cares, let the customer decide. They are the only opinions that count.

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