Does hyposalinity really work for ich?

[daniella3d]

Well probably because hyposalinity only work for ich, nothing else. It does nothing for velvet. Also I have read of resistant strain of ich and for those only copper will work.

Sometime copper is the only way to save fish but I would use it as a last resort and if in case of velvet. Velvet kill so fast that even copper need to be started early in the disease.

Originally Posted by Myka

I don't understand why people use copper to treat fish. It causes more damage than good, especially when there are much healthier alternatives that work just as well. Imo, if you're going to treat them with copper, why not give em a shot of cyanide while you're at it?



Good call. I try to get all new comers with Prazi...makes a big difference for some of them.

[Myka]

Originally Posted by daniella3d

Well probably because hyposalinity only work for ich, nothing else. It does nothing for velvet. Also I have read of resistant strain of ich and for those only copper will work.

Sometime copper is the only way to save fish but I would use it as a last resort and if in case of velvet. Velvet kill so fast that even copper need to be started early in the disease.

You can't treat marine velvet with hyposalinity, but you can treat MV by doing repeated freshwater dips. I have been successful with this method. It does take quite a bit of work though because the infected fish has to be placed into a "sterilized" QT afterward. I always use display tank water in a QT, of course that doesn't work if the infected fish was already in the display! Sterilized meaning a QT that isn't infected with MV or a thorough disinfecting of the QT so as not to reintroduce the fish to the parasitic dinoflagellate. Yes, MV is an algae.

Here is a great article on Marine Velvet including a description of how to use freshwater dips for treatment:
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-0...ture/index.php

[marie]

I have treated my achilles and my 2 potters with cupramine and all 3 are still alive to tell the tale.....
I tried using freshwater treatments to treat MV on my achilles but after less then 90sec in the fresh water I thought I killed him and just couldn't go through it again

I only use hyposalinity on new fish if they have no signs of parasites, if I see anything suspicious I go straight to cupramine treatments


*Edit*But then I've become rather anal about keeping ich out of my display, my achilles has never had any ich since quarantine and I plan to keep him that way

[Myka]

Originally Posted by marie

I have treated my achilles and my 2 potters with cupramine and all 3 are still alive to tell the tale.....
I tried using freshwater treatments to treat MV on my achilles but after less then 90sec in the fresh water I thought I killed him and just couldn't go through it again

I only use hyposalinity on new fish if they have no signs of parasites, if I see anything suspicious I go straight to cupramine treatments

Hehehe, freshwater dips don't look nice because the buoyancy of saltwater is different than freshwater so they get all messed up. It does look like you`re killing them.

I refuse to use copper these days. Ten years ago when I didn`t know there were better ways or that copper can be so harmful I used it for Ich. Since then I have never had to resort to using copper since other treatments have always worked for me.

[daniella3d]

I don,t think cupramine is so nocif to fish as long as you don't use any type of water treatment or dechlorinator that could bind with the amine and release the nocif copper. So no Prime while using Cupramine or any other similar! But from what I read it is efficient and safe.

So I guess a freshwater dip is a good way to quickly help a fish plagued with velvet get rid of most of it, but personaly I would be so afraid of bringing that into my main system that I would want to treat with cupramine to be 100% sure it's dead.

I hope that you will never have to deal with any of this.

Originally Posted by Myka

Hehehe, freshwater dips don't look nice because the buoyancy of saltwater is different than freshwater so they get all messed up. It does look like you`re killing them.

I refuse to use copper these days. Ten years ago when I didn`t know there were better ways or that copper can be so harmful I used it for Ich. Since then I have never had to resort to using copper since other treatments have always worked for me.