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Old 10-17-2010, 07:59 PM
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you shouldnt add any fish untill amonia and nitrites are zero and you need to wait for them to appear and then drop to zero then you should see a small spike in nitrates in which you can do a fairly large water change... you added way too many fish way too soon i only have 3 fish in my 33g that has been runing for years.i would advise to take out the dead fish and any living ones untill your sure youve completed your first cycle which will happen in time i guarantee. after of which you should add a cleanup crew then 1 single fish .you should let your tank stabilize before adding anymore fish then. my rule of thumb is if your starting from scratch minimum month and a half before adding any fish, and even then you really really really need to add them slowly.the smaller the tank the more these rules need to be followed.if you stick to this guideline your sure to have success without any losses.


once you have no nitrites or amonia and your nitrates are low you can think about adding hardy corals if thats your intention


some good advice is to read and be patient dont plan anything in your first month just watch your tank.... after your first month you can add a clean up crew for a couple weeks then thing about adding a small fish.

also never add liverock or anything that could hold dead organic matter to your tank or it will just start another cycle
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Old 10-17-2010, 08:08 PM
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Yes, patience is a fairly new concept to me .

The tank is 81g shallow (w/56 gallon sump). I didn't plan to add any more fish for a long while, so I will remove the deceased and see what happens in the next month or so.

All of the rock was cured, but the first batch definitely had some die-off between the time I bought it and added it to the tank (I added the rock in 2 batches, but it was all in for a few weeks before I added the fish).
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Old 10-17-2010, 08:14 PM
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Yes, patience is a fairly new concept to me .

The tank is 81g shallow (w/56 gallon sump). I didn't plan to add any more fish for a long while, so I will remove the deceased and see what happens in the next month or so.

All of the rock was cured, but the first batch definitely had some die-off between the time I bought it and added it to the tank (I added the rock in 2 batches, but it was all in for a few weeks before I added the fish).

in your 80g its still too many fish too soon everytime you add a fish your system has to adjust to the bio load of each fish if you add a bunch of fish at once your system gets overloaded and the good bacteria will have a hard time catching up which is where youll see a rise in nitrates and possible bad algae like diatoms and the dreaded cyano. for fish youll end up with ich or even worse marine velvet which is super hard to completely remove
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Old 10-17-2010, 08:17 PM
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canreef is a great site for info and if i were you iwould post everymove made and ask other reefers what they would do before doing it yourself, after all alot of us have been doing this for years and have dealt with alot of problems and are more than glad to help someone from making the same mistakes we all made cheers on the new build and i would recommend starting a tank journal here and youll get all the advice you could ever want
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Old 10-17-2010, 08:27 PM
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Good advice, thanks! Will a) set up a QT and b) learn patience.
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:39 AM
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Not to mention that using a QT might eventualy save your the REAL hassle of having to catch all your fishes to treat them outside the main tank in the event you get velvet and need to treat with copper.

It can be a real pain in the neck to have to catch all the fish to treat them. Beleive me a QT is a blessing

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