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Old 10-13-2010, 02:15 AM
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I found a link that has the instructions that are coming in the NPX bags, this is the same as what I got in mine.

http://glassbox-design.com/2010/npx-bio-beads/

In the above link go half way down the page, in the blue box is the actual instructions. Please note it says "are best used within a fluidized reactor with enough flow to keep the top layer of Beads tumbling aggressively". I am trying to find some of the research articles I found, if I can find them again, I will paste for your reading enjoyment.

Edit: here is a Link to a great article by Grumpy Old Reefer
http://grumpyreefer.net/2010/02/08/n...-story-so-far/
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Lighting: 5ft Hamilton Belize Sun (2x250W MH, 2X80W T5HO)
Type of Aquarium: mixed reef (SPS & LPS) with fish
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Old 10-13-2010, 02:56 AM
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Thanks for the info Rick, I might turn down the flow if I see anything funky going on in the tank. It's hard to tell the magnitude of them working on my system because I run a few different nitrate sinks.

Do you know if any of the other brands come with instructions like this? I know everyone has taken a swing at producing these pellets now, if running them correctly is the key to success I would hope company's are detailing this comprehensibly.

First time hearing about an instruction insert for the NP-Biopellets.
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Old 10-13-2010, 03:22 AM
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Thanks for the info Rick, I might turn down the flow if I see anything funky going on in the tank. It's hard to tell the magnitude of them working on my system because I run a few different nitrate sinks.

Do you know if any of the other brands come with instructions like this? I know everyone has taken a swing at producing these pellets now, if running them correctly is the key to success I would hope company's are detailing this comprehensibly.

First time hearing about an instruction insert for the NP-Biopellets.
That is the problem, until recently I was flying by the seat of my pants on these also. Fast flow, slow flow, up and down and I didn't know what to do. The instruction pamphlet was a shock to me when I opened the bag, as I wasn't expecting it. Then the lack of people reviews when these first came out, didn't help either.

From what I see, most brands don't detail how to use. The NPX instructions are in the NPX bags, but not in my original NP bags... I have enough pellets of both old and new to last me 5 years or more.

I am also tempted to do what Grumpy Old Reefer did. He had his pellets in a 10 Gallon pail. He found more pellets and greater surface area worked better. I run 2 reactors, but technically 2 seperate sources. So if I take the same amount of pellets (dump both reactors into one pail) and work it the same way, will the results be even BETTER! It makes me wonder.

I hope what I found helps you and others. I look forward to hearing about your results also.
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Hardware: Super Reef Octopus SSS-3000, Tunze ATO, Mag 18 return, 2x MP40W, 2X Koralia 4's Wavemaker
Lighting: 5ft Hamilton Belize Sun (2x250W MH, 2X80W T5HO)
Type of Aquarium: mixed reef (SPS & LPS) with fish
Dosing: Mg, Ca, Alk

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Old 10-13-2010, 09:37 AM
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My biggest problem the first few days of running it is tweaking the reactor and messing with it. Didn't help that it was my off week at work so every hour i was running down and messing with something on it turning it up then turning it down thinking it would work some magic

Even this morning woke up 4am to get ready for work i had to run down and take a look to make sure they are still tumbling to my liking haha.. Oh well I'm working 12s the next 3 days, i should be able to stay hands off for now.

But i agree with lack of in-depth product review there is no real set standard on how to run the system some people say aggressive some say more passive slow some say tumbling slow.
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Old 10-15-2010, 09:40 AM
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So i am convinced that either i am doing something really wrong or i have a bad batch of pellets.

I put the reactor back online Tuesday during the day and instantly my skimmer stops skimming can't create a foam head just rapid bubble popping.
Figured that maybe the pellets just needed to work in a few days this morning still the same thing going on.

If i take the reactor offline in about 1-4 hours the skimmer will kick in again and start to skim like a beast. They are the only thing that have changed in the tank nothing else, so its either me or the pellets i am thinking the pellets since as soon as i introduce them it kills the skimmer.
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Old 10-15-2010, 05:26 PM
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So i am convinced that either i am doing something really wrong or i have a bad batch of pellets.

I put the reactor back online Tuesday during the day and instantly my skimmer stops skimming can't create a foam head just rapid bubble popping.
Figured that maybe the pellets just needed to work in a few days this morning still the same thing going on.

If i take the reactor offline in about 1-4 hours the skimmer will kick in again and start to skim like a beast. They are the only thing that have changed in the tank nothing else, so its either me or the pellets i am thinking the pellets since as soon as i introduce them it kills the skimmer.
Here is an article:

http://glassbox-design.com/2010/np-b...lling-skimmer/

You might have a bad batch of pellets, but it states the skimmer should resume.
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Setup: 180G DT, 105G Refuge (approx. 300lbs LR, 150lbs Aragonite)
Hardware: Super Reef Octopus SSS-3000, Tunze ATO, Mag 18 return, 2x MP40W, 2X Koralia 4's Wavemaker
Lighting: 5ft Hamilton Belize Sun (2x250W MH, 2X80W T5HO)
Type of Aquarium: mixed reef (SPS & LPS) with fish
Dosing: Mg, Ca, Alk
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Old 10-21-2010, 04:33 AM
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Well I've joined the club , I just setup up my new Vertex reactor. Hoping for some good results.
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