Lost my mind....or, here we go again!

christyf5 · #1 10-06-2010, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro

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Christy, I may need a few more frags -lol

LOL, I was going to comment earlier. I'll have frags galore for you when you're ready

Delphinus · #2 10-06-2010, 04:22 AM

External overflow unless you need the tank up against the wall. I HATE how much real estate my internal overflow eats up out of my 280g.

Center overflow, or coast to coast. (External or internal, either way). That way if you go wavebox the wave will be minimized at the overflow and sloshing is minimized.

Leave enough space over top of the overflow. Especially if you go with a non centered overflow and you have a wavebox.

I think Herbie > Durso. Durso really only good for reducing gurgling noise. Herbie is quieter and makes microbubbles pretty much impossible since there is no way for air to enter the plumbing. Well, except for the skimmer anyhow and anything else, but at least the overflow intake is submerged completely so it can't draw in air.

There's another kind of overflow system whose name I can't remember but it's basically Herbie extreme. You need 3 holes for it. That might be something to look into.

lastlight · #3 10-06-2010, 04:26 AM

Beananimal. I've never really gotten the point. I think Herbie is the shiz.

I'd totally love to have a coast-to-coast next time around. Take the thinnest sliver off the surface and if it's wide enough and you're not trying to force 10,000 gph through your sump you really don't need eggcrate or anything on the overflow.

Delphinus · #4 10-06-2010, 04:29 AM

"Beananimal" ok thanks. I couldn't remember it and it would have taken easily 2 minutes of googling before I stumbled randomly across it.

I agree, I think Herbie's are completely it. I'm not sure what this beananimal has to offer over Herbies, but I thought I'd at least bring it up because there is nothing worse than finding out after the fact about something else you could have considered.

Aquattro · #5 10-06-2010, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by christyf5

LOL, I was going to comment earlier. I'll have frags galore for you when you're ready

Cool! hopefully I'll be able to get things to grow with the new system, and can trade you some back!

Delphinus · #6 10-06-2010, 04:37 AM

Stockman and Durso are really identical ideas, just different shapes.

You could go coast to coast with an internal overflow and still drill out the bottom. You'd just have to have the coast-to-coast part like a bridge and then in one (or both) of the corners still your traditional overflow tower (I'm not sure what to call the box part).

Sort of like an upside-down U (well, a squared off U anyhow).

Aquattro · #7 10-06-2010, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Delphinus

You could go coast to coast with an internal overflow and still drill out the bottom. You'd just have to have the coast-to-coast part like a bridge and then in one (or both) of the corners still your traditional overflow tower (I'm not sure what to call the box part).

Sort of like an upside-down U (well, a squared off U anyhow).

Quite a bit of fabricating for that, and I'd lose more space than just standard internal stacks. Although smaller than what I've used in the past, so that might work. Even a single stack with room for 2 or 3 pipes, a T rather than a U

Delphinus · #8 10-06-2010, 06:19 AM

Sounds workable.

StirCrazy · #9 10-06-2010, 02:52 PM

the beanimal and herbie are the same.. kinda like durso and stockman Brad, but the herbie is the way to go. depending ont he flow you want you won't need as many bulkheads.

since you have to drill the tank anyways I would recomend an external overflow with yor herbie sertup in that. nice and clean inside the tank.

go to HD or what ever and buy some unfilled travitiene tiles for your bottom, that will give you a beige sand look. but a couple more tunze..

why did you want a new tank? more room?

oh and the most important thing.. make the stand big enough to store everything underneith and make the doors lockable to keep the little one out of chemicals and such.

Steve

lockrookie · #10 10-06-2010, 04:30 PM

+1 on external i did it on my 50 cut the notch myself not too hard just keep the bit wet i love the extra room inside the tank. if i can figure out a way to do external on my future 120 i definately will.just means i have to cut a hole in my wall which i am ok with .... the wife not so much. so i may have to go internal. which is still better than hang on back which is what im currently using