Ethical kole tang dilemma

[SmallFry]

Originally Posted by Skimmer King

small fry who are you nice to see some one else here is this you CURTIS!!!!!!

Nope, pretty sure I'm not not Curtis..

As for who I am, I've been on Canreef for a bit over a year, generally lurking and learning as I go. I currently have a 27 gallon bowfront (first tank) and a 75 gallon in the works (been in the works for a long time!). I don't post that often, usually only when I need advice, or on the rare occasions when I feel I can offer some..

That's about as interesting as I get I'm afraid..

[Spiny]

If you really can`t see him in the 34, you could always make an ad "free to a good home" and then choose his new master

[Doug]

Update time. He spent a week in the cube. Seemed ok, except when the tank was empty I cleaned the glass and the end thats wood backed is like a mirror. Of course he would not leave that other kole alone. He even had the male perc believing there was more fish in there and the perc was fighting the glass also.

Anyways, he was making my clowns uncomfortable. Never seen them like that. So on the weekend I moved them to my 50g, again. That lasted a day and I hated the tank as much as the last time I tried, so moved everything back to my cube, except the kole.

Mike decided to give him another go in his tank. What a pair of softies we are. What we dont do for our pets or whatever one calls them. So back in the 150g he went. Mike mentioned he was eating clip algae and keeping out of the way of his huge saifin, who was reminding him who,s boss in there.

Never chatted with Mike yet today. I hope the little guy is doing fine and has enough brains, {likely not} top not bother his acans again with his second chance.

I may add that I very closely watched his behaviour in the cube as compared with the 4ft. long 50g. As good as he was, {esp. the 1st. time} in my cube, he was notably happier, {in my opinion}, with 4ft. in front and 4ft. behind to swim. So he better behave himself as he has a ton of room in Mikes tank to cruise.

My clowns and the dufus pj cardinal nobody wanted and the little mandarin I got from Steve Phelps are the only residents now. I can say for a fact my clowns are very pleased with that situation.

[Myka]

Hey Doug! I am happy to hear he is not in the 34g tank anymore. They really do need more space, although I totally understand the attachment you have for him. I had a 1 1/4" Kole in a 33g tank for a few months, and he acted the same way when I moved him to my 90. I don't think he was stressed at all, but he was significantly smaller than yours. Have you thought of getting a larger cube tank? What do you hate about the 50? Albeit I think the 50 is also too small.

[gobytron]

wow.

what a significantly different thread than some others I have seen regarding tangs in "too small" tanks.

I can't wait to quote and reference this thread later on.

great read.

[Myka]

Originally Posted by gobytron

wow.

what a significantly different thread than some others I have seen regarding tangs in "too small" tanks.

Doug is also a moderator...he wears a permanent flame retardant suit.

[lastlight]

Originally Posted by Myka

Doug is also a moderator...he wears a permanent flame retardant suit.

Oh I'm supposed to treat Tony and Ryan a little better too you're saying? Shoot I didn't know that

So this seems like a nice place to ask (if Doug will allow it).

My tank is 36x24x26 (97g) and I want a Kole. What are your thoughts since you've all got Kole on the brain?

[Doug]

Originally Posted by Myka

Hey Doug! I am happy to hear he is not in the 34g tank anymore. They really do need more space, although I totally understand the attachment you have for him. I had a 1 1/4" Kole in a 33g tank for a few months, and he acted the same way when I moved him to my 90. I don't think he was stressed at all, but he was significantly smaller than yours. Have you thought of getting a larger cube tank? What do you hate about the 50? Albeit I think the 50 is also too small.

The 50 just does not work in my little fishroom/office. Samr reason i cant have a larger cube. Besides my 6ft. 225g at my other house I did have a 180g cube. Best tank I ever owned.

[Doug]

Originally Posted by Myka

Doug is also a moderator...he wears a permanent flame retardant suit.

Thanks Mindy.

Originally Posted by lastlight

Oh I'm supposed to treat Tony and Ryan a little better too you're saying? Shoot I didn't know that

So this seems like a nice place to ask (if Doug will allow it).

My tank is 36x24x26 (97g) and I want a Kole. What are your thoughts since you've all got Kole on the brain?

IMO, that size tank is fine for one of the smaller tangs. I still go with the longer length the better theory but cant see why a kole for instance, who grows up in a 100g tank of that particular size would not be happy, esp. with a good home.

Plus see my reply to Wayne below.

Originally Posted by naesco

Your tank is too small for tangs.
Tangs are swimmers and require the larger 6'+ tanks that provide the room they need.
An exception is a kole tang however even a 30 is too small for it but I could not post that because Doug is a mod. BTW Doug when did you get the police light?

Brett your tank is large enough for a kole though and thanks for asking before you buy.

Of course my tank is to small Wayne. I know that. Its why I posted here to discuss it.

All to often we are to quick to say the 6ft. requirement quote or something similar without taking into consideration the aquarist and/or the needs of the fish. {besides the swimming length}

The thread was posted exactly because of that situation. We have had this guy for over 8 years. What would you or others suggest we do with it. There is nobody here to give it a good home. Perhaps drop it off at the local store and it ends up who knows where or dead.

Would some of you like to know how many sad tang and large fish stories I can tell you from aquarists who have large tanks but not a clue on how to keep them. And thats a long list from my 35yrs. of keeping saltwater fish.

I may have my troubles with sps corals, but can assure you, not with fish. This was the best option for this particular fish at this particular time and in this particular situation.

At least thats was my opinion on it and seems many others. Mike has alleviated that, by putting him back in his 150g and I hope he will be fine or we are back to the same problem

So all tang/tank problems are not cut and dry.

And whats with me being on staff got to do with anything, although the respect is appreciated. If I posting something you or others dont agree with have at it. Thats why I posted it. As someone said, its a great read and good discussion.

[Doug]

Oh and the little police light in in the smilie list. I just added it to my signature.