Ultimatereef.com TOTM keeps a yellow tang in a 30gal...

[gobytron]

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Lets switch it away from fish for a second, if you want to buy a pair of super high energy border collies I'm not going to sit back and criticise what kind of food you buy them, whether they're crated at night or not, etc. BUT, if you leave them locked in a 10x20 room or on a 10 foot chain in the yard, all day every day you can bet that people will get ****ed off and say something about it. This is the same thing.
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it's actually not the same thing...

one is a mammal and carries significantly higher intelligence.

The other is a fish.

Also, I think the fact that this fish obviously looks healthy and is 5 years of age speaks for itself.


With all the problems the ocean and the environment has, this issue is one of the last things anyone who actually gives a $%*t should spend time and energy worrying about....IMO.

Think about what a crappy experience being caught and shipped is for the average fish we enjoy so much, if "best practice" was truly your monicher, you would have to only buy from proven and relaible breeders of tank raised species.

otherwise, this is just hypocritical nonsense....IMO.

[Slick Fork]

Originally Posted by gobytron

it's actually not the same thing...

one is a mammal and carries significantly higher intelligence.

The other is a fish.

Also, I think the fact that this fish obviously looks healthy and is 5 years of age speaks for itself.


With all the problems the ocean and the environment has, this issue is one of the last things anyone who actually gives a $%*t should spend time and energy worrying about....IMO.

Think about what a crappy experience being caught and shipped is for the average fish we enjoy so much, if "best practice" was truly your monicher, you would have to only buy from proven and relaible breeders of tank raised species.

otherwise, this is just hypocritical nonsense....IMO.

Yes, if we wanted to be truly humane, tree hugging heroes... none of us would have fish in the first place. We also would be wandering around naked eating berries and grass and stuff. But I love my steak and leather jacket and fish tank so the key is to find that happy medium where we get to keep what we want in a responsible ethical manner.

But to say that taking the fish out of its environment is the worst part and that absolves us of any responsibility to provide a proper environment for it is beyond comprehension to me. The comparison to the dogs is perfectly valid, they are both living animals that become 100% dependent on us for their well being. I can't believe that is even up for debate.

I don't think anybody here is going around knocking on doors and demanding to inspect the living conditions of peoples fish, for better or worse people are generally allowed to screw up the life they are responsible for without being harassed too much, the issue here is this guy was honoured for keeping a fish in sub-standard conditions.