this guy beats Al Gore hands down !

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by RuGlu6

And yeah, oil is NOT fossil fuel thats for sure! it is abiotic and being formed naturally, so there is no peak, LOL we will burn our oxigen before we can burn all the oil.

That's a new take on it. got supporting documentation?

[muck]

[RuGlu6]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

That's a new take on it. got supporting documentation?

Simply because carbon based fuels exist on other planets where was never any plants or dinosaurs since solar system was formed.
One example is http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01...tan_flammable/
Methane is carbon based fuel how did it formed without trees and dead animals.?

Also because on this planet oil is found at 22 000 feet and deeper as well as below ocean floor at such strata depths that never had any animal or plant matter.
LOL When we bury a cat or a grandma do we get oil ?

http://www.rense.com/general67/oils.htm
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http://educate-yourself.org/cn/oilno...l29sep05.shtml

Also to throuw something else interesting your way check this guy out he sayis that there is evidance found of humanse on this planet as far back as 2.8 billion years back !!!
http://www.forbiddenhistory.info/?q=node/83

Metallic spheres, approximately 1 inch in diameter and some with three parallel grooves around the equator, have been found in South America. There have been two types found- one composed of a solid bluish metal with flecks of white, and the other hollowed out and filled with a spongy white substance. The spheres were found in a Precambrian mineral deposit- dated to be 2.8 billion years old.
http://www.forbiddenhistory.info/?q=node/93
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http://www.forbiddenhistory.info/?q=node/2

[Stones]

Originally Posted by RuGlu6

Also because on this planet oil is found at 22 000 feet and deeper as well as below ocean floor at such strata depths that never had any animal or plant matter.

Speaking from a geological perspective, all of the oil reserves discovered so far have been formed from the decay of predominatly algae, bryozoans, and plankton in either a fresh water or marine environment.

The reason why such reservers are now situated at depths exceeding 22 000 feet is that all of the overlying rock is overburden. At one point in time, these organisms lived at the surface of the earth's crust in shallow lakes, inland seas, as well as the ocean. After they died and sank to the lake or sea bottom, these organisms were buried with sediments that over millions of years, accumulated to the true vertical thickness of rock we see overlying any given reserve of oil.

At one point in time, it was thought that oil could also have been generated from an igneous rock source through degration of certain minerals under extreme heat and pressure. This however, has never been proven as I've read several papers on the subject, all of which clearly state that oil has in all instances thus far, been generated from an organic source.

[RuGlu6]

Originally Posted by Stones

Speaking from a geological perspective, all of the oil reserves discovered so far have been formed from the decay of predominatly algae, bryozoans, and plankton in either a fresh water or marine environment.

The reason why such reservers are now situated at depths exceeding 22 000 feet is that all of the overlying rock is overburden. At one point in time, these organisms lived at the surface of the earth's crust in shallow lakes, inland seas, as well as the ocean. After they died and sank to the lake or sea bottom, these organisms were buried with sediments that over millions of years, accumulated to the true vertical thickness of rock we see overlying any given reserve of oil.

At one point in time, it was thought that oil could also have been generated from an igneous rock source through degration of certain minerals under extreme heat and pressure. This however, has never been proven as I've read several papers on the subject, all of which clearly state that oil has in all instances thus far, been generated from an organic source.

How about planets that never had organic life and yet have carbon based fuel ?

[Slick Fork]

Originally Posted by RuGlu6

How about planets that never had organic life and yet have carbon based fuel ?

I've read a few articles on the abiotic theory as well, they haven't come close to substantiating that claim. I can't address what happens on other planets, but every gallon of oil produced here on earth so far is KNOWN to have come from the decay of organic matter as Stones pointed out.

Besides, if Oil was "grown" as the abiotic theorists suggest why are we bothering drilling in all these remote and nasty places? Why not just sit back and wait for all the old holes to refill themselves?

Simply put, even if we buy into the "oil is grown" nonsense than we are still consuming it exponentially faster than it is being produced so it becomes a moot point. Sooner or later we will run out of cheap, readily available oil.