3 fish dead in 2 weeks and it does not look good for the rest

[fishoholic]

Originally Posted by bvlester

It looks like velvet and the only thing to treat it with is Copper nothing else works freshwater baths while you QT all fish and then the DT has to remain dark and fallow for 3 months to be rid of it. I would QT each fish separately in 10g tanks then the least affected fish have a better chance of making it with out any stress from other fish the QT also has to remain dark. Ambient light from a room for feeding and remember to feed food that has been soaked with garlic and selcon to help with the fish's metabolism and immune system the copper will most likely affect their livers any tangs or angle fish their stomachs bacteria will be killed so they may not do so well.
I wish you all the best with this as you have to be dedicated to help these fish FW dips every day helps a bit. lower the salinity and raise the temp. Thats all I can offer you the way of help, other than if they are not going to make it clove oil will put them down. I would dip them first and find out if they have flukes but that would be the worst case of flukes I have seen in a long time.
Bill

Agreed about the FW dips. It wasn't until close to the 2nd week of treatment and I got brave enough to do FW dips that I noticed huge improvements with the fish's ability to breathe better.

[fishoholic]

Originally Posted by bvlester

+1 fishoholic I would believe her just read post on MV it is moving... and I sympathies with her for what she went through.

Honestly it was the worst thing I ever went through in my life. The saddest day for me was when my when my regal tang was dying and it was like she couldn't take the pain the MV was putting her through any more. She started to swim as hard as she could smashing herself into the glass along the sides of the tank and jumping up and smashing her head on the top of the lid to the QT tank. It literally was like she was trying to kill herself (or at least knock herself out) in order to stop the pain. I cried a lot after watching that and I still cry at the thought of it. Makes me sick that I didn't try to save them sooner

Do yourself a favor and take Kien's offer of help.

[trinac]

Originally Posted by fishoholic

Honestly it was the worst thing I ever went through in my life. The saddest day for me was when my when my regal tang was dying and it was like she couldn't take the pain the MV was putting her through any more. She started to swim as hard as she could smashing herself into the glass along the sides of the tank and jumping up and smashing her head on the top of the lid to the QT tank. It literally was like she was trying to kill herself (or at least knock herself out) in order to stop the pain. I cried a lot after watching that and I still cry at the thought of it. Makes me sick that I didn't try to save them sooner

Do yourself a favor and take Kien's offer of help.

Yikes... that is sad. In one of the books I have there is some information on euthanasia for very sick marine fish - The Marine Fish Health and Feeding Handbook. The book is at home, and I am in BC though, so I can't offer any more information right now.

Something to consider though if it ever gets to that point.

I got the book at Chapters online for like $35 or something. Its worth the read for sure.

clove oil will put the fish to sleep for good and it is painless.

BIll

[sitandwatch]

Quick update.

The fish got picked up but sadly two did not make it.

One the Mystery Wrasse that I have had since the start looks like it got attacked and died my guess due to that and the stress.

The other a fairy wrasse, I suspect stress, and being farther along being sick.

I now know why people leave this hobby its one thing to loose a fish but to loose so many so fast and ones that you have a bond with "as much as you can bond with a fish"

This just sucks

Cant stop thanking Kien, I hope that the rest pull through.

[Coleus]

It sucks sometime, I am sorry to hear you loss.

[kien]

Well, I guess since we are keeping everyone up to date..

Ya, so I picked up the fish yesterday from Brian, they weren't looking so hot. The Pink Tail Trigger looked like he wasn't going to make the trip back to my place. In the end it was the Mystery wrasse that didn't make the trip. He had a huge gash on his throat that looked like someone attacked and bit him or he got injured somehow. Sadly he was dead when I opened the bucket. First round of cupramine last night. This morning I noticed the two Perculas and the Pink Tail was eating (garlic soaked pellets and flakes). Niger still hiding in rocks. So that is positive that the Pink Tail Trigger went from a write off to swimming around and eating. The Perculas and the Yellow tang looked the strongest so I gave them a fresh water dip. I think that helped them out a lot, especially the clowns because the clowns were really dusted up like baby powder. That's all cleared up now.

Here's my QT/Hospital rig. Up top is a 45g and down below is a 33g.



Pink Tail hanging out with one of the Perculas.



Copper treatments can be pretty stressful on fish too so let's cross our fingers..

[naesco]

It is almost impossible to say whether it is ich or marine velvet from your picture.
When you look at the fish lengthwise do you see tiny salt-like specs on it?
If that is the case it is ich and what you need to do immediately is treat the fish as the infestation is serious.
Here is what you do.
Soak dry food like flakes in garlic extract from a health food store or garlic extreme from a LFS. Dry food because it soaks up the garlic much better.
Feed only garlic soaked food as the idea is to put as much garlic in the fish a fast as possible.
Feed very often, overload the fish with this food for the same reason.
If it is not salt like specs you have marine velvet and follow the advice given in the other posts. IME marine velvet kills quickly from the first signs and I note you say that they are dying over a period of 2 weeks.

[Coleus]

I never experience MV so i can't offer any advice plus i think others already give you enough information.

If funding prevent you from setting up QT. I have a 10 gallon QT tank and copper bottle you can borrow. I am sure others will step up and help if you need more QT tank.

Good luck and may I know where did you buy your recent fish?

[Delphinus]

Good luck. If there's anything else you need please post it, I'm sure between all the locals we can pony up enough equipment.