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Old 02-27-2010, 09:30 PM
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Please don't take this post seriously but why are we arguing about this still. If pc laptops were half as sexy as macs we'd see THEM in the movies.

COME ON GUYS!

And to refute the twice as expensive bit...we have to compare sexy to sexy. If i could actually *find* a comparable laptop that looked as good then I could make some comparisons.

I CAN'T =)

Oh and about going to sea...what kind of connection do you have out there? Can we classify you as a gamer WITHOUT high-speed?
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Old 02-27-2010, 09:46 PM
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Yes, looked at Dell Steve. I have a bunch of gift certificates for FS, so the first thought was them, not that I could not use them for other stuff.

I dont game and not going to sea, so those things not a consideration for me at least.

Actually Brett the HP I listed looks a lot nicer than the Mac Books. Of course dont mean they work better. IMO, the iMac is the nicest one I seen for looks at the store, overall.

Wish to say again, how much I appreciate the time you guys are taking to add input here. I know its not buying a car or anything but when one does not have a great knowledge on something its nice to have others in the know offer advice.

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Old 02-27-2010, 10:03 PM
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Actually Brett the HP I listed looks a lot nicer than the Mac Books
Doug I want you to buy the HP (and allow me a few min to cry like a BABY in the corner)
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Doug I want you to buy the HP (and allow me a few min to cry like a BABY in the corner)

Never purchased anything yet Brett.
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Never purchased anything yet Brett.
found one for ya

http://configure.dell.com/dellstore/...NAM17XARN_R_1E



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If you really need bluetooth you can get a $1.98 usb/bluetooth dongle for your laptop from Dealextreme. I have one and it has worked flawlessly under XP, Vista and Windows 7 - however there are no Mac drivers.

I haven't really used the bluetooth more than once or twice and I haven't used firewire even though my external drive has firewire, USB 2.0 and eSATA II. I have hooked up the drive via firewire and eSATA is much faster. Theoretical speeds are 400 Mb/s and 800Mb/s for firewire 400 and 800 vs. 3Gb/s for SATA II

I don't believe there are any macs that come with eSATA.

That is the problem that I have with Apple in general. Apple gives you the experience that they believe you need - not necessarily what you need. Dell is the number one computer manufacturer at least partly because your machines are custom built to your specifications.

World wide market share for Mac OS vs. Windows vs. Linux which as of January 2010 including Snow Leopard and Windows 7 are 5.1%, 92.1% and 1.0% (don't ask me why it doesn't add up to 100 - I can give you the link)

If I had an unlimited budget I might buy a mac again. However, most people have a general idea of what they want to spend and don't buy on a comparison of specs. I would look at how much you want to spend and compare the windows and mac machines in that price range.

One machine that I have played with that is impressive is the HP tm2 touchsmart at 1099. It is a touchscreen notebook that is convertable into a tablet.
A co-worker of mine that is a mac person bought this at London Drugs.
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I've never used anything with firewire either. Same goes for Card readers etc. Even on my DSLR I find it simpler just to plug the thing in with the USB cord they give you.

I think there's been some good discussion here Doug and you've gotten both sides of the story. Ron99 has about as much a chance at converting StirCrazy and I over to the Apple side as we have of turning him into a PC user.

At the end of the day, I think the things you should compare are
1) Processor
2) RAM
3) Hard Drive space.

Like Pinhead mentioned, pick a price point and call it your total budget and compare what you get.
Include Photoshop Elements and Include the bamboo pen and touch pad if it's something that interests you. Don't kid yourself about Iphoto being enough for more than adjusting white balance. The reason Adobe makes a Mac version of elements is because there is a demand for it.
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Oh ya right. My son would like it however. I believe his next desktop is going to be liquid cooled.
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