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Old 02-23-2010, 03:27 AM
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For the mats you can get them at CE franklin, Midfield or and oilfield supply store there are mats that will only adhere to hydrocarbons so it will strip the oil out. There a also socks that do the same thing they only absorb oil water will pass right through.
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Old 02-23-2010, 03:31 AM
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Cool! I'll source some tomorrow and try them out. In the mean time more ideas please

I've heard of people using sand filters to remove oil efficiently, any experience?
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Old 02-23-2010, 03:39 AM
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Build a separator. As long as the particles are heavier then the alcohol they should drop out given the right conditions to do so. No mechanical filtration needed. Just let gravity do it's job and all you need is 2 baffles. Just have to size in correctly?
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Old 02-23-2010, 03:45 AM
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Build a separator. As long as the particles are heavier then the alcohol they should drop out given the right conditions to do so. No mechanical filtration needed. Just let gravity do it's job and all you need is 2 baffles. Just have to size in correctly?
Will that work if the oil is dissolved? Doesn't this only work for sediment?
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Old 02-23-2010, 04:52 AM
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Will that work if the oil is dissolved? Doesn't this only work for sediment?
I'd have to ask my mgr, who's a solvent extraction specialist, but I suspect you're going to need to do some sort of solvent extraction or use a special media bed (same principle as in DI media).

I don't think you'll be able to just do a mass separation as you're having an attraction between the functional groups in the oil & alcohol.

You might contact Dow, Fisher or Anachemia to see what media they have that might be appropriate for your application.
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you could always set up the filtration for after the wash, chemical r/o back into the tank and reuse. I would also think that sediment may also be your friend in this type of system, as it would offer some abrasiveness for scrubby bubbles
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you could always set up the filtration for after the wash, chemical r/o back into the tank and reuse. I would also think that sediment may also be your friend in this type of system, as it would offer some abrasiveness for scrubby bubbles
That's kind of what I was thinking, a separate unit to filter the alcohol between washes as required. I've never heard of a chemical R/O before, could you elaborate? If it's anything like the water ro with a 4 to 1 waste ratio it would be much good. I can't invest in something that will only recover a small portion of the alcohol, it has to be the majority if not all.
Also the sediment won't be beneficial, the parts are actually pretty clean when they go in but there will be traces of grit from the sandblaster and oil from heat treating as well as whatever chemicals are used in the powder coating or plating processes. If any particles remain on the surface the gauging process could fail which is not good.
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I never saw the oil part just the small particle part. So the oil will actually dissolve into the alcohol?
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I never saw the oil part just the small particle part. So the oil will actually dissolve into the alcohol?
Yeap which is why it's used as a solvent.

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I'd have to ask my mgr, who's a solvent extraction specialist, but I suspect you're going to need to do some sort of solvent extraction or use a special media bed (same principle as in DI media).

I don't think you'll be able to just do a mass separation as you're having an attraction between the functional groups in the oil & alcohol.

You might contact Dow, Fisher or Anachemia to see what media they have that might be appropriate for your application.
Good info, thanks
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