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Old 01-29-2010, 01:15 PM
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I have played videogames my entire life. I still have my sega master system and every worthy system since. Currently i am using my PS3 to type this post. I am the most passive person i know, even if you punched me in the face, i would not fight back. Some people are just born more violent than others. others it is the way they were raised. do you think somalian pirates play GTA: Somalia edition


and so they became more prone to violence. Poverty and lack of a supporting community are suspect, as for violence in a first world country greed and lust for power are the culprits. the media just makes the world look more violent now but in actuality we were clubbing each other to death since the dawn of man.
sorry to say this but beliefs also get more people killed than any other reason. dont "believe" have an idea.
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Old 01-29-2010, 01:28 PM
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nope I don't realy think so.. it has been showen that most hard core video players tent to actualy leant more towards being introverts. but thats why I don't think so. I remember when we were kids we used to play "cowboys and indians" and other games like this where we used realistic looking guns and shot our buddies. we used to throw rocks at what ever, cherry bomb the niebours mail box, poop bombs, ect.. in school we used to get into a lot of fights. but we never played video games.. i have raised two kids that are long goon from home and have two that are going to be here for a while. so I saw the state of kids about 10 to 15 years ago and I am seeing them now and I see less violance than whan I was a kid.

one thing I am noticking is that kids don't have the same sence of honnor as we did. ie. letting the guy you just knocked down get up befor you knock him down again, and "one on one" ect but I think this a more an issue of kids from broken homes and parrents that have to both work full time (although there is no way around that one some times).

so to blame all this on a video game is kinnda stupid, but some people will try find an excuse to blame instead of looking at themselves.

kinda like when Twisted sister was sued claiming there song caused some parent's kid to kill themselve.

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Old 01-29-2010, 01:49 PM
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Guns don't kill people, people do. Same thing here.

If you use videos games as a babysitter and don't teach kids proper morals they will likely be screwed up a little. More often than not parents blame everything but themselves as reasons why their kids are bad.

Think about it, if someone actually thinks parts of a video game, movie or whatever is real enough that they will act out parts of it thinking that it's OK to do so then that person is pretty stupid. Stupidity is a relative term, you can only learn what you are taught so if kids don't learn right or wrong properly then they simply don't know any better. And yes if you use video games as a means of teaching this then yeah perhaps it could cause violence but it's hardly the result of the game.

The answer isn't to shelter kids but rather teach them. Very rarely do kids act out in violence as a result of too much attention from parents.
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Old 01-29-2010, 04:19 PM
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Guns don't kill people, people do. Same thing here.

If you use videos games as a babysitter and don't teach kids proper morals they will likely be screwed up a little. More often than not parents blame everything but themselves as reasons why their kids are bad.

Think about it, if someone actually thinks parts of a video game, movie or whatever is real enough that they will act out parts of it thinking that it's OK to do so then that person is pretty stupid. Stupidity is a relative term, you can only learn what you are taught so if kids don't learn right or wrong properly then they simply don't know any better. And yes if you use video games as a means of teaching this then yeah perhaps it could cause violence but it's hardly the result of the game.

The answer isn't to shelter kids but rather teach them. Very rarely do kids act out in violence as a result of too much attention from parents.
+1 We used to play fairly violent and graphic video games as kids and didn't turn out bad. Violence in video games can be an outlet and actually fun. It is fun to be bad in a way that doesn't actually hurt somebody else. Our parents taught us wrong from right and we knew it was pretend and you don't do that in the real world.

The problem these days is that kids can just get away with whatever they want and only get a slap on the wrist. Commit an actual crime and there are barely any consequences for youth. Parents either don't interact with their kids or let the TV/xBox etc. be the babysitter. Also, to many parents these days have this stupid touchy feely parenting style where they want to be their child's friend. Reality is that you aren't their friend, you're their parent which is a much more important job with much more responsibility. It is up to the parents to be the responsible party and discipline the kids and teach them wrong from right.

My honest belief is that parenting should be licensed. You may laugh but we have to get a license to drive a car. What requires more responsibility; driving a vehicle or creating well adjusted humans that aren't antisocial irresponsible sociopaths?
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I think this post is kinda random for a first post to a reef board. What's up??
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Old 01-29-2010, 04:54 PM
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Probably a grad student doing some sort of research and using a bunch of boards to do that Either that or maybe someone from one of those dumb ban videogame and TV violence groups trying to start a debate
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Old 01-29-2010, 09:33 PM
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Personally I do believe that making more forms of violence accessible through casual media might not necessarily CAUSE violence but may make people more apathetic to violence or less likely to be disturbed by it. But if you want to look at a more important factor you might look at how the increase in the divorce rate or the decrease in the amount of time kids spend with their parents leads to more social dysfunction, including violence I guess.
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IMO bottom line is your tv/game system is not a baby sitter. if this is where your children are learning their life lessons then maybe you should look at the parents and their neglect. if no one is there to teach them right from wrong how will they know.

I have been a gamer for years and find it a good way to blow off steam . however i had parents very involved in my youth. played sports almost everyday.

when i was being raised and i started to annoy the folks it was " go outside and find something to do" now adays its " go sit infront of the tv and play video games. "
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personally i do believe that making more forms of violence accessible through casual media might not necessarily cause violence but may make people more apathetic to violence or less likely to be disturbed by it. But if you want to look at a more important factor you might look at how the increase in the divorce rate or the decrease in the amount of time kids spend with their parents leads to more social dysfunction, including violence i guess.
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