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[Ephraim]

congrats on going RO!

[shrimpchips]

With RO (and less TDS and other junk) you may want to rethink/tone back your Zeo lest you completely strip the water bare or all nutrients.

[JDigital]

Welcome to da Club!

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by shrimpchips

With RO (and less TDS and other junk) you may want to rethink/tone back your Zeo lest you completely strip the water bare or all nutrients.

I don't agree with this...

[shrimpchips]

Why not?

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by shrimpchips

Why not?

Because I don't buy into "stripped water" anecdotes. If he is currently a successful Zeovit user, his water will already be "stripped" or whatever ambiguous state the armchair elite would like to call it. In recent memory, I can recall a similar accusation pointed towards high efficiency skimmers. As we all know, current skimmer technology succeeds previous incarnations by a long shot. The result? Better, cleaner tanks with healthier livestock.

The key here is to keep things as stable as possible. Reducing supplementation of carbon sources or media beds will have a larger negative impact on a stable system than simply switching to water that should have been used to begin with.

Let's put it this way; don't fix what isn't broken, and this isn't broken

[shrimpchips]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

Because I don't buy into "stripped water" anecdotes. If he is currently a successful Zeovit user, his water will already be "stripped" or whatever ambiguous state the armchair elite would like to call it. In recent memory, I can recall a similar accusation pointed towards high efficiency skimmers. As we all know, current skimmer technology succeeds previous incarnations by a long shot. The result? Better, cleaner tanks with healthier livestock.

The key here is to keep things as stable as possible. Reducing supplementation of carbon sources or media beds will have a larger negative impact on a stable system than simply switching to water that should have been used to begin with.

Let's put it this way; don't fix what isn't broken, and this isn't broken

That's the issue here - it's not just reducing the supplementation of organic carbon or whatever other zeovit additives that is going to have the negative impact, but the sudden change in overall nutrient availability. You're going from a nutrient rich (tap water) to a nutrient poor (RO/DI) state before bacterial/skimmer/nutrient export processing. Like any balanced equation, if you take one term out (in this the extra nutrients in the water) you're going to have a deviation from equillibrium.

And, I'm quite active. I don't even own an arm chair.

[FlamesFan]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

I don't agree with this...

I agree with albert on this. Zeo's job is to "strip" the water as you guys are calling it. The zeo products then introduct their own nutrients to the coral via dosing. If anything John should see better results with a cleaner starting point. (Zero TDS)

[shrimpchips]

Originally Posted by FlamesFan

I agree with albert on this. Zeo's job is to "strip" the water as you guys are calling it. The zeo products then introduct their own nutrients to the coral via dosing. If anything John should see better results with a cleaner starting point. (Zero TDS)

Yes, and for that reason, Lobsterboy will probably have to tone back the Zeo. The zeo system removes nutrients from the water - including the very ones you add into the system. If he has a lot less nutrients from the water, the zeo is going to be removing a lot more of the nutrients that are deliberately introduced.

Hence you have two options, start adding a lot more zeo additives to replace those that are not being introduced any longer, or tone back a bit on the zeo as there is less nutrient load to be removed.

[fooser]

I also must agree with Albert. I have been researching on zeo a little for my new build and from what I know about zeo, it cleans out the water column and then gives the corals what they need through facilitation of other supplemental products. It takes what they don't need and gives back what they do need. Corals get enough nutrients from the zeo dosing that they no longer need to work as hard producing food during the day and use polyp extention to capture any other additional nutrients from the water column. Because they save so much energy through zeo nutrients, polyp extention increases noticeably.

Never the less, I am sure different tanks may have different results and effects from changing things up suddenly. I am sure John will know if his tank is affected adversely or not when he monitors his corals. He can always make slight adjustments if the needs arise.

Anyways... good purchase John! I will be looking into one of those in the next few months. Let me know if you see a noticeable difference in your tank with that RO unit. Can't wait til you come by again to pick up your pocci, and check out the new system! Post some pics when the changes pop up in your corals!