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Old 01-20-2010, 07:15 AM
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I think it might have more to do with your water parameters than anything.
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Old 01-21-2010, 05:52 AM
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Yeah I would guess so too, I'll need to get some test kits and take some readings pretty soon here, might need to start dosing if I wanna keep corals.

Does anyone have success with corals without dosing in a similar setup with a good light, good skimmer and frequent water changes?
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Old 01-21-2010, 06:03 AM
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Alright, I'm probably going to take wrath from people here saying this but... MH bulbs DO NOT change much over their lifetime. Ok, so maybe there is a slight decrease in output but it is minimal. I use MH consistenly in my reseach and I have to calibrate the lamp every week; no change over the past year. Your flourescents will die overtime but not that much in 4.5 months.

Your problem seems like params OR you have some chemical warfare going on. When you say the candy cane has no colour, does it looked bleached? More importantly, is it receding? What else is hangin' out in that tank?
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Old 01-21-2010, 06:44 PM
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Well, we got a few corals doing well and then some that are not really at all.

Doing ok/well:
Frogspawn
Favia
Red Montipora
Green Digitata
Green Star Polyps
Green Bubble Tip Anenome (no where near any corals)

Doing Poor:
Candy Cane
Birds Nest
Hammer Coral
Pulsing Xenia
Colt Coral
Green Montipora Cap
Red Montipora Cap

Thoughts? No corals are really that close to each other, most are still pretty small in size too.

The Candy cane does look white, but I am inexperienced and dont know if it looks like its receding. It opens up at night no problem.

Thanks for the help guys!
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Old 01-23-2010, 08:20 AM
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Any more thoughts?
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Old 01-23-2010, 02:44 PM
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Well, we got a few corals doing well and then some that are not really at all.

Doing ok/well:
Frogspawn
Favia
Red Montipora
Green Digitata
Green Star Polyps
Green Bubble Tip Anenome (no where near any corals)

Doing Poor:
Candy Cane
Birds Nest
Hammer Coral
Pulsing Xenia
Colt Coral
Green Montipora Cap
Red Montipora Cap

Thoughts? No corals are really that close to each other, most are still pretty small in size too.

The Candy cane does look white, but I am inexperienced and dont know if it looks like its receding. It opens up at night no problem.

Thanks for the help guys!
How big are the colt and xenia?.....leathers are the worst for chemical warfare....that could be something to think about......are you running carbon?
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Old 01-23-2010, 02:36 PM
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Yeah I would guess so too, I'll need to get some test kits and take some readings pretty soon here, might need to start dosing if I wanna keep corals.

Does anyone have success with corals without dosing in a similar setup with a good light, good skimmer and frequent water changes?
Check out Carmen's 75g bowfront thread.......probably one of the nicest, low tech low budget, non dosed tanks you will ever see...http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...=45688&page=10
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Old 01-23-2010, 04:01 PM
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Check out Carmen's 75g bowfront thread.......probably one of the nicest, low tech low budget, non dosed tanks you will ever see...http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...=45688&page=10
Thanks Doug!

I had great success with my low budget 72G. I attempted dosing and felt it wasn't for me...I was extremely inconsistent and just did not want to put in the time. ( My time spent on the tank is somewhat limited)
I do believe I started seeing a decline in certain corals once my leathers reached a good size. So perhaps chemical warfare may be to blame. Running carbon is a necessity with leathers.
Also I have experimented with certain salts and found different salts affected the tank. (ofcourse that alone could be explained by parameters rather than salt but I have never been real good at consistent testing).
I have the same frustrations at being able to keep certain corals with great success and others that just don't do well and slowly fade or die. Frustating as that may be I just chalk it up to some things are happy in one tank and not another.

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I keep a 20G with the 150W Coralife Aquapro, HOB filter with carbon, no skimmer. I do water changes every week to two weeks. I'll do it more frequenty is something looks unhappy. I find my colt and frogspawn to be like 'canaries in the coal mine' to let me know it something isn't right. I have eerything in that tank... softies, LPS and SPS. I have a HUGE toadstool in the tank which is a bit of a polluter that upsets the others from times to time but typically I find with carbon this goes away. Oh, and I keep my candy cane right on the sand and he grows like stupid.

Definitely get some test kits. You might it could be something as simple as your pH being off. Test, then dose IF you need it.

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Old 01-23-2010, 05:52 PM
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Hmmmm, some interesting thoughts. I am not using carbon right now, but I might have to start I guess? haha.

The xenia and colt coral were, when at their peak size maybe the size of a couple soft balls for the xenia and a tennis ball for the colt.

They are definitely doing poor now and I dont know if theyre going to make it. Think they are the culprit?
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