New lighting - new technology????

[stephane]

They have only 6000 lumen for 85 watt
Iwasaki have 18200 lumen for 250 watt

so you need tree to make same lumen intensity
so at 95$ each 285$ and consume 255 watt+ 3 socket

Iwasaki are 90$ an consume 250 watt + one socket

not a great deal IMO and Im pretty shure they will never have a better shelf life and color shift than the good Iwasaki

just my 2 cent

[ 25 March 2002, 22:38: Message edited by: stephane ]

[FishGeek]

clinton

They use them on their wall display tanks. Not the coral tanks. I heard they are trying to convert the wall unit into the coral tank as soon as they get the filtration system running.

Simon

[FishGeek]

Clinton

Hey you new to the site? Seems more and more E-town people are on here every day. Now we are 4 strong. Tomorrow we take over the world.

Simon

[stephane]

Maybe you need compare aple whith aple

They have only 6000 lumen for 85 watt
Iwasaki have 18200 lumen for a 250 watt MH bulb 6500k
Iwasaki have 5000 lumen for a 70 watt MH bulb 6500k

so you need tree to make same lumen intensity
at 95$ each 285$ and consume 255 watt+ 3 socket

Iwasaki are 90$ an consume 250 watt + one socket

not a great deal IMO and Im pretty shure they will never have a better shelf life and color shift than the good Iwasaki

just my 2 cent[/QB][/quote]

[BCReefer]

It is called Envirolight. I saw them at Kevin’s on the bypass in Surrey/Langley. I am trying to find it on the web but so far no luck.

It is hard to describe the look but tube that has a 180 degree bend every 4”. These bends are also in a circle so that it has the same shape as a regular bulb.

The socket is larger than a normal light bulb socket but it will not fit into a MH socket ( I think).

I am hoping to have this information by tomorrow or Wednesday at the latest.

[BCReefer]

Try this link. The light I saw was 65W and was suppose to out put 4x the wattage?????

Lighting

This is only for reference only as the manufacture is different.

[ 25 March 2002, 12:47: Message edited by: BCReefer ]

[CHEAPREEF]

Looks like i'll stick with the 1 MH as planed. One of the main reasons to go with MH was to get it down to one or two bulbs. Simon are you talking about the front tank where they cure their LR? There are two MH with 2 VHO actinics on there as of yesterday. Give me an email some of use should get together.(sort of a club or something. LOL) ;)

Clinton

[StirCrazy]

stephane, whare did this 95.00 / bulb come from..last time I checked it was only 50.00 for the 85 watt moddel. anyways aside from that I don't think this would be a option to replace a MH (like you said lets "compare aple whith aple") a compact floressent is going to be lower than a MH anyday.. but if you ae comparing thease against a 96 watt PC then they are good.. they are cheeper , require no ballast, only 12" long, and have about the same lumen. so for smaller tanks, or non-sps tanks they wouldbe great as you can put more in the same amount of space to cheeper.
look on the net a two 96watt PC set up costs almost 500.00 retail.. I can buy 8 to 10 of the other ones for thisand have 4 to 5 times the amount of light.. or maby just put one on a 10 gal refuge.. who knoes.. I will go to albrite today and confirm the price but I am sure it was lower than 50.00

Steve

[stephane]

Originally posted by StirCrazy:
stephane, what did this 95.00 / bulb come from..last time I checked it was only 50.00 for the 85 watt moddel.
Steve

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bcreefer tag this price on the first post I actualy never see any of those bulb.

if they are 55$ it could be an option for refugium
like you said or namo tank

[BCReefer]

I hear what everyone is saying about the lumens etc, but what about the cost savings on power consumption and then the water evaporation from the MH. I currently have 1 175W MH and 2 30W actinics. The problem that I find with MH is that with my 33G tanks which is 3’ long I believe that only the middle 12” gets the full intensity of the MH and the further you go out the lower the intensity.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

So I was thinking about putting 2 of the 65W or 95W bulbs in and take out the 175W MH.

Stircrazy – yes that looks exactly like what I saw.

Stephane – you indicate that you would need 3 bulbs to match the lumens. I am at about 50% understanding of how lumens work with our aquariums, I understand the wattage and Kelvin thing, but not so hot on the lumens. Can you explain to me, in laymans terms please, why the lumens are important.

Lastly, if you way some of the pro’s and con’s like less power consumption, no noisy fan needed, cheaper bulb, no ballast needed – but then it is fluorescent, less lumens??, new technology.

What if we went with the 90W lights which is supposedly comparable to 400W?

Thanks all for the information.