06+ f150

my2rotties · #1 12-31-2009, 06:22 PM

I actually posted Advantage's add for our old truck for sale on Kijiji, and begged people not to buy it. I got a nice little email from Advantage threatening to sue me for placing the add. They had Kijiji tear it down, but I reposted it a few times. I never did hear from a lawyer or anything about it. It was sold again with extended warranty for the new buyer... wonder how lucky he has been.

Live and learn but when you pay $85000 for a truck with extended warranty to protect yourself, and have it dealer built, you think you will be covered. We bought a 2002 Silverado that is lifted 8", with the exhaust and all the good stuff. It is the gas 5.3 and has been an awesome truck, although we did replace the tranny already. Mind you a Canreef friend helped us get a deal on one from the wrecker and the repair was under $1000. The Ford's tranny was over $8000 from Advantage. The whole Ford thing was a nightmare and it would only run for about 6 weeks before something else broke on it. I figured if we hung in there long enough, everything that could break would break eventually. After three grueling years it was time to walk away from it.

I have all the service records and should really sue them, but don't have the funds to do it, which really sucks. I hear form many people their late model F350s are fuel sucking lemons and they have had nothing but issues. We were told the 2007 (ours) is the best one made, and if that is the case, man people must really be upset out there.

I do really like the F150 and we drove many of them while our F350 was being fixed. We had so many of them we noticed some were quicker, quieter, or better on fuel... were even had a brand new Harley Davidson truck for over 2 months, and put 15000km on it while Advantage did not want to fix our truck... I wonder how many trucks we depreciated in value but racking up the miles on them while ours sat in the lot never getting fixed.

We never did have an issue with the F150, and we had plenty to drive around for weeks. For me, I will keep my Fj, although there are really stupid things I hate about it, but it has never let me down. It's a keeper for sure, and I will always have a Toyota. I know no matter how cold it is it will start even though it has not been plugged in or run for days in a deep freeze. I have never had another vehicle that will do this for me. Hubby gets all mad and says it's because it is a POS and has no compression and that is why it starts right away all the time

StirCrazy · #2 01-01-2010, 04:02 PM

any diesel made after 2003 has it issues. the 6L engin was a POS untill about 2005 and the 6.4 was a lot better but go lousy gas milage. this is the reason ford has termanated its partnership with international and has gone with there own diesel for 2010/2011

the 7.3 powerstroke was the best diesel ford used but it was only from 1999-2003 and they had to change as the designe of the engine wouldn't meet emission regulations comming in in 2005. this was the same reason for dropping the 6L and going with the 6.4 due to new ones in 2009. the engine problems were a international issue not a ford design, but ford did use them so it was very costly for ford as there were issues getting the agreed apon recouperation from international.

the new diesel looks very good and should be a eye opener for the diesel market.

I can't believe they wanted 8K for a tranny that is robbery.. I had mine totaly rebuilt using heavy duty parts, a billit multi disc converter (with the torque converter fins all tig welded) , better solinoid pack, valve body kit, steal caged bearings, and premimum discs and friction surfaces, and a few others for 4K. I wasn't planning on doing this so soon, but my truck was ripped off and driven into a lake getting water in the tranny.

I hope you loged a complaint with the BBB and ford canada at least.

Steve

MitchM · #3 01-01-2010, 04:20 PM

It's nightmare scenarios like this that make me glad that I keep my 2006 F350 diesel stock.
Boring, but cheaper!
It does all the work I ask it to. (towing a 14,000 lb dump trailer on summer weekends for example)

Mitch

StirCrazy · #4 01-01-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Carpentersreef

It's nightmare scenarios like this that make me glad that I keep my 2006 F350 diesel stock.
Boring, but cheaper!
It does all the work I ask it to. (towing a 14,000 lb dump trailer on summer weekends for example)

Mitch

you can add power to them and there are a lot of upgrades that if done right are safe. If you have a standard you don't have to worry about tranny problems, but you do need to look into what you are doing and be reasonable. the 6L has a Max of about 350Hp with out investing a lot of money to keep it reliable. so you could do exhaust, intake and a good all round chip no problem but I would also not recomend any of these upgrades with out putting a good gage set in first with at least tranny temp (for a auto) and egt. optional would be a bost gage. I have all 3 and I use them to drive and adjust my gears and speed acordingly when towing big weights up hills.

Steve

MitchM · #5 01-01-2010, 08:20 PM

All vehicles today are so tightly engineered, they need a computer to keep systems operating within tolerances.

So what you're doing is basically replacing the computer with yourself...which isn't necessarily a bad thing....

The more things that you replace, the more things that you have to manually keep an eye on.
Problem is - is that if you still have the main computer hooked up, it could work against you and put stresses against components unnecessarily.

Add in the false sense of security of an "extended warranty" that may be quietly backed up by a third party with fine print...

It just leaves too much to chance, for me anyways.

I think a lot of mods available come from trucks in the States that are made to look like they could jump 40 cars, but are really just pavement princesses. - and they look cool.

Mitch

prodogg02 · #6 01-01-2010, 08:24 PM

there was a dodge dealed my bud works at that got in s@#$ from the factory cause they were sell edge moduals with the diesels peps were runnin around on level 5 blown injector tips off and then they would waranty them.the factorys send guys around to check the stuff that was warantied to make sure its rally broken and to try and find out why it broke if it doesnt meet the factory warany specs the dealer does not get paid back for the parts i heard they lost alot of money and had a bunch of po'ed customers.

my2rotties keep jumpn your fj and let us know what happens lol you must go through batties like crazy unless you hav a gel cell how are the tie rods holdn up and does it seem to hurt the frt ball pivot on the frt axle

if any one wants some top quality mods check out westers garage it in tilly alberta they do mass work for guys in the states hav seen some of the cars they do on pass time pinks and pinks allout the guys name is lindin wester hes awsome with custom fuel injection.

my2rotties · #7 01-03-2010, 07:53 PM

I don't always go jump it off of stuff. There has been the odd time I accidentally fell off of something off road as well. I don't launch it 10 feet in the air or anything or seriously abuse it. However, when I feel like going to Mclean creek and go mud bogging with it or run it off road, I do and don't think about it much. The battery is the stock battery and the truck is still tight every where else. I will have had it four years in May...

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Originally Posted by prodogg02

my2rotties keep jumpn your fj and let us know what happens lol you must go through batties like crazy unless you hav a gel cell how are the tie rods holdn up and does it seem to hurt the frt ball pivot on the frt axle

my2rotties · #8 01-01-2010, 11:49 PM

I tried to lodge complaints but they were not taken seriously. The truck was dealer modified and Ford washed their hands of it. It was the dealer's responsibility to fix the truck and it was costing way too much money. The day we decided to just walk away from it, we spent over $1000 getting the air conditioning fixed the second time, and other work done. The air conditioning stopped working in five minutes and then the windows would not open. That was the last straw. I pulled the insurance and plates off it and told them to come get it. I was not going to drive it to Advantage with no air conditioning or windows that worked (seats were not working either), in the warmest days of the summer.

I have the invoice for the over 8K, I am not kidding that is what they charge for a brand new tranny with the labor. What a nightmare. I am glad it is now over.

Quote:

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

any diesel made after 2003 has it issues. the 6L engin was a POS untill about 2005 and the 6.4 was a lot better but go lousy gas milage. this is the reason ford has termanated its partnership with international and has gone with there own diesel for 2010/2011

the 7.3 powerstroke was the best diesel ford used but it was only from 1999-2003 and they had to change as the designe of the engine wouldn't meet emission regulations comming in in 2005. this was the same reason for dropping the 6L and going with the 6.4 due to new ones in 2009. the engine problems were a international issue not a ford design, but ford did use them so it was very costly for ford as there were issues getting the agreed apon recouperation from international.

the new diesel looks very good and should be a eye opener for the diesel market.

I can't believe they wanted 8K for a tranny that is robbery.. I had mine totaly rebuilt using heavy duty parts, a billit multi disc converter (with the torque converter fins all tig welded) , better solinoid pack, valve body kit, steal caged bearings, and premimum discs and friction surfaces, and a few others for 4K. I wasn't planning on doing this so soon, but my truck was ripped off and driven into a lake getting water in the tranny.

I hope you loged a complaint with the BBB and ford canada at least.

Steve

whiteice669 · #9 01-02-2010, 02:44 AM

you should ask them why they put in a brand new one ? and not repaired the one that was in there for thousands less, ask if they did a cost comparison, prob dont have a proper trans tech there

my2rotties · #10 01-03-2010, 08:35 PM

I have no idea of why Advantage put in a new tranny. They said they needed it. I think they did it because Ford was going to pay for the warranty. When Ford did not pay for it, they wanted the money from us. We fought about it for a few weeks and I came to the forums about it. I threatened them with AMVIC, and other things. My husband ended up driving the truck off of the lot with his spare set of keys without paying.

My husband and I were talking about this whole ordeal, and there were so many problems and loaners, we cannot recall what happened when. The truck would go for about 6-8 weeks before it had to be flat decked for repairs. The truck never had heat or air conditioning, and the list goes on and on. I have a stack of service records that would fit into a binder.

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Originally Posted by whiteice669

you should ask them why they put in a brand new one ? and not repaired the one that was in there for thousands less, ask if they did a cost comparison, prob dont have a proper trans tech there