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[Ian]

RuGlu6
I believe that there is a huge difference between what conscientious animal lovers do and what that video portrayed. Is what we as reefers do somewhat selfish , you bet, but certainly the vast majority of us do everything we can to provide a safe and healthy home for our animals.
To torture any animal for any reason is completly unacceptable.

[RuGlu6]

Originally Posted by Ian

RuGlu6
I believe that there is a huge difference between what conscientious animal lovers do and what that video portrayed. Is what we as reefers do somewhat selfish , you bet, but certainly the vast majority of us do everything we can to provide a safe and healthy home for our animals.
To torture any animal for any reason is completly unacceptable.

Nothing personal to you, nevertheless for example, how would YOU like to be kept without freedom of movement, freedom of reproducing, castrated or spayed, your ears trimmed, tattooed, microchipped, have a collar that would shock you with electricity, claws surgically removed, kept in a cage and have all your freedoms taken away by Conscientious animal lover ? Just because you look cute or its cool to have an animal like you around the house?
Would that not be a torture?

[kien]

I would rather have my nails removed than to have to fend for myself and scavenge for food in dumpers every night while fighting off other rabid diseased animals competing for the same food..(trust me I know what it's like - not fun). My cat is declawed, tattooed and neutered and lives more comfortably than I do

[RuGlu6]

Originally Posted by kien

I would rather have my nails removed than to have to fend for myself and scavenge for food in dumpers every night while fighting off other rabid diseased animals competing for the same food..(trust me I know what it's like - not fun). My cat is declawed, tattooed and neutered and lives more comfortably than I do

The difference is we have a choice , your cat did not.

[kien]

Originally Posted by RuGlu6

The difference is we have a choice , your cat did not.

Believe it or not, even we humans do not have this choice sometimes and they are often made for us, for better or worse. I agree that we sometimes have to change our way of thinking but not all decisions that we make on the behalf of others are bad decisions.

We don't give birth to children and then throw them out into the world to fend for themselves. We make a lot of decisions for them for a long time. It is up to us to decide what those decisions are. Hopefully they are the right ones but it is ultimately up to us to decide that. Whenever we choose to care for something the same applies. What it eats, what medicines it takes or doesn't take, what surgeries it needs or doesn't need, etc. We must often make these decisions on their behalf, again, trusting that it is the right decision.

[RuGlu6]

Originally Posted by kien

Believe it or not, even we humans do not have this choice sometimes and they are often made for us, for better or worse. I agree that we sometimes have to change our way of thinking but not all decisions that we make on the behalf of others are bad decisions.

I would have to agree that often nowadays humans have taken their freedoms away as well. Way too often in my opinion.

Oh well... philosophy... good bad ... The wise once say, there is no good or bad , only learning the lessons.

[kien]

how can you tell that we are both passionate about this subject???