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12-16-2009, 03:03 AM
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Waaay too many comments on my post to comment back on, but for those vendors that think they are taking good care of the rock (and I'm sure some of you do, but it really is few and far between), how many of you test the water for ammonia? How many of you do 100% water changes on the new batches of rock?
I agree with untamed that when I buy rock I want it FOB (fresh off the boat) to preserve life because I honestly don't trust a vendor to do this because "most" vendors view live rock with much less value than I do. However, with the prices of "new" live rock these days I have to buy "used" rock, and shop around until I find some good, clean, healthy rock. I use the same method as Steve (Stir Crazy) when curing rock. I check for spikes, and do water changes as needed. A couple days in 4 ppm ammonia does a lot of damage to the life on/in the rock. Heck, 2 ppm is damaging. For me, I don't really care how you achieve the clean water (be it skimmer or water changes or both), just keep the dang ammonia and phosphate down!! Btw Steve (sphelps), the comment about opening a store of my own I was joking hence the  . I'm not an idiot, I've managed enough stores to know that retail isn't easy and you can't have it all. I'm not one to shop somewhere else over $1, but I sure will if it's a 15% (or more) difference! Retail fish stores don't make very many owners rich...Last edited by Myka; 12-16-2009 at 03:14 AM. 
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12-16-2009, 03:20 AM
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For me, mostly a diverse selection of nitrifying bacteria and mollusks. I also don't want a bunch of unchecked die-off polluting the rock with phosphate, and gumming it up with detritus.
Out of curiosity, what's the most important aspect of live rock to you Steve (sphelps)? Last edited by Myka; 12-16-2009 at 03:22 AM.
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12-16-2009, 04:00 AM
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I'm not sure I see the appeal in mollusks but ok. As far as general bacteria goes ammonia levels wouldn't really affect that and the best way to remove "pollutants" is to eliminate everything that pollutes from the rock. I just don't see what the big fuss is about with this whole live rock thing. I'll take dead and clean any day over live.
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12-16-2009, 05:07 AM
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Who cares?
Just buy the rock from wherever you want and let the vendors do what they want. It's the same as buying anything, if you don't like a product, don't buy it. Simple.
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12-16-2009, 06:05 AM
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Bravo !
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12-16-2009, 06:56 AM
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+1  BRAVO!How annoying what people bitch about on here and I wonder why I go on and off Canreef. I get especially annoyed when someone thinks they know best about everything. *rolling my eyes* Poor vendors. You can't paint every store with the same brush. Perhaps you should take a drive to some stores in Edmonton and Calgary. Otherwise thats just not right to say that. As said already...If you don't like the product, dont buy it. Simple. 
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12-16-2009, 06:20 AM
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I look at it this way if I'm going to buy Rock I'm going to go where there is the cheaper price, end of bitching, come on people support your local vendors if they arent doing it right thing teach them. Don't bitch about it fix it. wow too much complaining, until you have a head dollar of 100,000K to play with (zip it) its nothing worst then someone bitching to get posts or just to be heard. just to make a statement. sorry folks to many people here trying to make a name for them selfs. I understand that people can't make t he proper business or thatthey dont have enought money. But come on they are making a statment or trying to help out.. give them a chance.
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12-16-2009, 06:33 AM
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I had a pet rock once. I took really good care of it.. but one day I forgot to feed it and it died and was no longer live rock
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12-16-2009, 01:49 PM
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