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View Poll Results: Swine Flu/H1N1 Vaccination - yes or No? | |||
Yes, I'll take it. |
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86 | 33.99% |
No, I wont take it. |
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94 | 37.15% |
I need more information before deciding. |
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26 | 10.28% |
I've already had or have H1N1. |
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15 | 5.93% |
I think it's a conspiracy of some sort so please don't take it! |
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32 | 12.65% |
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As for those side effects, that is typical lawyer super conservative stuff. If 1 in 1000 people suffered those kinds of side effects from flu vaccines then there would be a public outcry every flu season and we would not be using them so commonly. The odds of having those severe reactions are probably more like 1 in a million. |
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so JFK was just pulling our leg? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY or Eisenhower? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdqA4rjrAbM Woodrow Wilson too? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdqA4rjrAbM yeah, i guess the former presidents of the united states don't have much insight on the true workings of the world we live. don't forget the last answer on the poll guys ![]() |
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![]() and when that happens do we make a new vaccine for this mutation? and that mutations mutation, untill we receive 3 or 4 seasonal flu shots? and if we just keep taking a vaccines for every meager illness that comes along what effect will that have on our immune systems in the long term? do we really understand the processes in which viral natural selection work well enough to start making judgments on whats best for the human immune system over vast amounts of time? do we ever care to look or think about 10 or even 100 years down the road? i would agree that some vaccines do outweigh the slight risks (and yes even in my mind they are very slim) but in my mind there are greater challenges killing way more innocent lives in our world that need to be dealt with before making such a hype fest out of this shot. IMO if saving lives is your business, making vaccines is an awful expensive way to go about it. as for the rest of the toxicology stuff, i must admit i'm not expert. but whats your opinion on aspartame from a toxicological point of view? i find one of the few things in our society that is still always innocent until proven guilty are chemicals. at what point does something safe in small doses start to add up because it in everything? how many shots will eventually contain these or worse preservatives in the future? i assume, if we do like you suggest and vaccinate every time a mild virus comes by how many more vaccines might there be in 50 years? there are many things you can do to naturally stimulate your immune system, like exercise, but look at the obesity problems faced by many. is a shot, that doesn't even give near 100% protection worth the time and effort spent? would getting more people to eat healthy and exercise have a far greater impact with drastically less costs? Last edited by FitoPharmer; 10-31-2009 at 07:47 AM. |
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Do people really think because they are scientists and can explain every ingredient in a vaccine, off a list that was provided to them, that it means everything is as it seems? I don't mean any disrespect and as I said earlier I don't necessarily think this one is a conspiracy but not everything can be explained in a lab. Someone please explain to me how it is so impossible for a conspiracy to be possible? |
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![]() I would like to mention something about the mercury comments above- eating 50 micrograms of tuna is very different than injecting 5 micrograms. Your body has all sorts of systems in place to filter out toxins but when you chose to inject the toxins you are bypassing all of those "filter systems"
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I don't think you can use 'uninformed' as a blanket term to describe people's fears here. There are a lot of people out there who think it's actually the 'uninformed' who have no fear of the H1N1 vaccine. Great that we have Ron here to provide real scientific answers but also, worrying that so many others ridicule the possibility that so many of us think that something doesn't seem right about the whole thing. As GSP says, "how it is so impossible for a conspiracy to be possible?" . |
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I keep an open mind about the stupid and evil things that the rich and powerful are capable of and nothing would really surprise but one has to use their common sense....Being powerful would be meaningless if you killed off all us little people ![]() |
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![]() I can hardy stand to read this anymore, it is obvious to me that some people on here do not have kids or family members. I cannot believe that some people would not get this vaccine to save lives and reduce the chance of severity to family members. I have a six week old baby at home and if i brought this into my house and gave it too my children and something terrible was to happen, i would never forgive myself. Wake up people, this is not some conspiracy, this is the beginning of a pandemic, do what you will, but remember this. If you or your family decide not to take the vaccine, I truly hope you are not the one, sitting at a bedside watching as another is on a ventilator. I cannot and will not take that chance with my family. Bottom line- What are you willing to risk?
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I don't recall the percentage but its well above 50% and I think closer to 80% of large corporation CEO's show behavioral and emotional characteristics of psychopathy, meaning they show chronic disregard for ethical principles and antisocial behavior. I'm sure many other powerful people/families are no different. Being powerful often times means they do not care in any way, shape or form about the little people. I think the theory of wanting to kill all but 500, 000 million people is out there too but I wouldn't be surprised if it were true that someone or an organization wants it that way and thats my only point...its possible. Dont think it will ever happen. It wasnt all that long ago there was a dictator who tried to establish a New Order in Europe and came VERY close to succeeding after occupying most of Europe, North Africa and parts of Asia. I dont think people like this are thinking too much about how many of the little guy survive. But I also dont believe that swine flu or the vaccine are part of any conspiracy...I just dont see how conspiracies are so silly. Last edited by GreenSpottedPuffer; 10-31-2009 at 04:16 PM. |