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			 Your not at all worried about your "big buck" clowns killing each other in the same tank? I would be..... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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	260g mixed reef, 105g sump, water blaster 7000 return, Bubble King SM 300 skimmer, Aqua Controller Jr, 4 radions, 3 Tunze 6055s,1 tunze 6065, 2 Vortech MP40s, Vortech MP20, Tunze ATO, GHL SA2 doser, 2 TLF reactors (1 carbon, 1 rowa). http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50034 . Tank Video here http://www.vimeo.com/2304609 and here http://www.vimeo.com/16591694  | 
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 Now the one thing I had been informed, which helps, is to always keep your clowns in pairs and they will be less likely to fight. Now if I had only one baby in there, there would more of a change for the male to take out the other male and there seems to be some good research to support this. Either way, just in case, I do have a 25g set up just in case. A think the success factor also came by keeping the babies within a container in the same tank, so the other two clowns were able to see them all the time over the last 5 months, and the younger clowns would do the submissive dance to them through the container. In the wild, clownfish have tendancy to live in groups within a large anemone with one female, one male and a bunch of unsexed adults. I think within our aquarium standards, it depends on the size of the tank a person has and how the new fish are introduced. Most hobbyists get their fish as adults and introduce them that why, however I think if you can get your hands on baby fish, less than an inch and raise them yourself within the same tank where the other fish can see them and not feel threatened by them, then there is a much higher chance of survival. 
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			 I agree. There is the off chance that they will start to fight when they get older but I think its more likely they will be ok with each other. You'll have 1 Female 1 Male 1 unsexed. As long as they tolerate the unsexed guy you will be fine. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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			 Well, there will be two unsexed ones in there..  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			So I went up to Jim's today (fortyfathoms) and got some stuff, I have even had a homicide in the tank already.. shown below. Here are the pics. Bengaii Cardinal: This guy is smaller than Omen, at 1.5 inches ![]() ![]() I bought two peppermint shrimp to help take care of my aiptasia issue. They quickly became an expensive snack for my cleaner shrimp. ![]() Ultra Crocea Clam. Approx 3". ![]() ![]() Elegance Coral: Several shots as it expanded. ![]() ![]() ![]() Mandarin Goby. Looks like Red with green strips. He has already been going around the tank and pouncing on pods, so here is hoping he gets fat. ![]() ![]() ![]() Mid-tank shot ![]() 
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			 Also got a rock with a couple Xenia frags and a small colony of Zoas on it. There is also something on it that is bright flourescent yellow. It looks like it could be sponge. Whatever it is, it isn't moving. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			![]() ![]() Then the Zoas from the left side of the rock. ![]() ![]() New Front Tank Shot ![]() 
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			 My mistake.. You have 4 clowns? I lost track sorry  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	  I've never heard of cleaners killing peps before.. Interesting. I'm going to Jims Saturday do you want me to pick you up another one? | 
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			 No thanks, but I appreciate the offer. Now that I know the peppermint is killing the peppermints, I am gonna have to get AiptasiaX to use. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			The stupid shrimp actually killed both of the peppermints I got today.. I had never heard of cleaner shrimp killing peppermints either and they had both been doing fine in my system and had started picking at the aiptasia, but didn't make it 3 hours before the cleaner had them. Grr. But at least I love the elegance and mardarin I got.. At least the like of those is overriding my distain for the cleaner shrimp right now. 
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			 Nice pickups!  The clam looks great.  I've been waiting on a Crocea shipment here, but I keep missing out on them  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	![]() My peps have always been killed by my cleaners - I have one and I*think* it's still alive. Previous to that I've tried twice and the Cleaner was always really agressive towards it. The yellow thingies look like sponges ![]()  |