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[whatcaneyedo]

I bought a submersible housing for my Canon PowerShot so that I can just put the camera right into the tank for good closeup pictures. A ziplock bag might even work but thats taking some risk.

[sphelps]

Only way is to go top down or through the side. You have to have the lens perfectly perpendicular to the glass to get a good clear macro. Unfortunately with curved glass this is impossible, which is why most people into photography don't by bow fronts or other curved glass tanks.

Best solution is make a top down camera box, it's a simple DIY project but don't use a Ziploc bag as I assure you this won't work.

[Coleus]

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[Carmen]

Can buy a topdown viewer from RedCoral that works great for topdown shots.

[Snaz]

Just curious but couldn't a warped image be shaped flat with some good post processing? It's just geometry right?

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Snaz

Just curious but couldn't a warped image be shaped flat with some good post processing? It's just geometry right?

Nope

[VFX]

Originally Posted by Snaz

Just curious but couldn't a warped image be shaped flat with some good post processing? It's just geometry right?

You're right but it's not that simple.

We do this all the time in my industry (flattening lens distortion, warping CG images to fit existing lens distortion, creating 'clean plates' etc.)

Depends on how much distortion you have. I'm guessing you wont have the image info needed to 'unwrap' the distortion from a bow front, but you could take 2 or more images & then stitch them together (with a little warping into shape if needed).

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[Carmen]

Or you could upgrade and sell me the bowfront!!

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Snaz

Just curious but couldn't a warped image be shaped flat with some good post processing? It's just geometry right?

When I was doing my Master's thesis work, we videoed salmon using an underwater camera with a bowed lense. It took a special program to digitally "un-bow" the images or to flatten them out so another program would allow us to use the computer mouse to help size the fish without physicall handling them. I don't think that such a program is commercially available but for someone who was reallllllllly determined to do this, it may be possible. You would have to capture images of a grid with known spacing, then click the mouse on each intersection of the lines. Then through trial and error in programming the right algorythm, you could try to find one that spreads out the image until the grid is again flattened digitally. Simple, no?

I think the lining up the camera lense to the plane of the glass is by far the better method than trying to digitally flatten the image using geometry or computer programming

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by SeaHorse_Fanatic

When I was doing my Master's thesis work, we videoed salmon using an underwater camera with a bowed lense. It took a special program to digitally "un-bow" the images or to flatten them out so another program would allow us to use the computer mouse to help size the fish without physicall handling them. I don't think that such a program is commercially available but for someone who was reallllllllly determined to do this, it may be possible. You would have to capture images of a grid with known spacing, then click the mouse on each intersection of the lines. Then through trial and error in programming the right algorythm, you could try to find one that spreads out the image until the grid is again flattened digitally. Simple, no?

I think the lining up the camera lense to the plane of the glass is by far the better method than trying to digitally flatten the image using geometry or computer programming

It's actually much more complicated than that and still not possible to correct for the distortion resulting from a bow front.

All camera lenses are actually curved, especially fish eye lenses which are often added with another glass lens to many underwater housings for cameras. This allows for a wider viewing angle and more light intake. The difference though relates to how these lenses are curved and sized.

A simple curved lens will create distortion and blurring effects, often called aberrations, which get worse as you move closer to the edge. The difference is camera lens curvature, including those placed externally on housings or wide angle additions, is not constant but rather aspheric which vary like the shape of a parabola. This combined with setting the proper distance between elements and the lens size, type and radius reduces the effect of aberrations. What you are still left with is simple lens distortion which is easily fixed with various programs including photoshop.

Bow front tanks have constant curvature and a radius or shape which isn't designed for photography in anyway so even if you figured out the correct distance you wouldn't be able to eliminate the major aberrations which cause the blurring effects.