vertex 80 or msx 160 ??

[Skimmerking]

Matt IMO/IME dont waste your money on these vertex, I have been hearing alot of Negitive's results on them from my friend in the US. they are cheaply made and if you are serious about your tank take it to the limit and save up and get what you want ,if you are serious a good strong water change will do what you want if you are saving up. I get a kick out of these place making crap and selling them only to see the customer saving up again to buy something that they have wanted in the first place.

I have had pretty much every skimmer on the market, ask any one here they will agree with me.
the big thing is what is your limit on a skimmer?
what size of tank do you have?
what is your bioload?
are you planning on upgrading in thenear future?
At the end of the day like I have stated A good old water change will do wonder's.

answer these questions and if you are serious pm me your number i will call you and talk to you about what I feel is good out there.

[albert_dao]

Errr...

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...&pagenumber=15

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1644119

Come again?

[Skimmerking]

yes that is a great show ,however when you have 2 skimmers in one sump they would and will compete against each other. and you cant really compare on two separate systems, due to the fact that each tank would be totally different.
Remember that i well rated skimmer will only pull out what is there and then once its had cleaned that water it wont really pull what it's in there.
a skimmer skimmer will continue to pull crap out making it look like its rocking all the time.

mike

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by asmodeus

yes that is a great show ,however when you have 2 skimmers in one sump they would and will compete against each other. and you cant really compare on two separate systems, due to the fact that each tank would be totally different.
Remember that i well rated skimmer will only pull out what is there and then once its had cleaned that water it wont really pull what it's in there.
a skimmer skimmer will continue to pull crap out making it look like its rocking all the time.

mike

If you threw an equivalent SuperMarin in there, it would smash both of those skimmers each and every time. Better design is better design, you're right. But the IN is handily keeping pace with the ATB...

[banditpowdercoat]

Tagging along, because I am thinking maybe an IN-180 for my 150g? Cost is a BIG factor in my decision unfortunately.

[Skimmerking]

well ya the super marin is like the Rolls Royce of skimmers. thou my Deltec isnt to shabby either consider that is that one that i ended up with , However the new cone is fancy thou with the red dragon pump

[fkshiu]

In the best interests of disclosure for this thread it should be pointed out that it is my understanding that Albert is part of Proline Aquatics which distributes both Vertex and Bubble King on a wholesale level.

Just to be clear I am not taking shots at Albert. He is very knowledgeable and I respect his opinions. Further, Proline has made it possible for Canadians to get a hold of many reef products that we wouldn't otherwise have the chance to including making Royal Exclusiv skimmers affordable (relatively speaking). However, I do believe that such insider information should be made disclosed when people are considering putting down their hard earned money for a product.

[Skimmerking]

Originally Posted by albert_dao

Errr...

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...&pagenumber=15

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...readid=1644119

Come again?

Errrrrrr, Come again can you elaborate on that ..

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by asmodeus

Errrrrrr, Come again can you elaborate on that ..

Yeah, they're not junk and they're not poorly made, a quick browse through the first link would have made that clear pretty quick...

[Skimmerking]

Well you tell me why they are good then and not the price either, and compare it to a brand name too, Come on albert what skimmer are you running at home its not a vertex....