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Old 07-08-2009, 12:04 AM
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This is why I'm not having kids. I dont want to bring anyone into this pathetic world we're creating.
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:13 AM
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This is why I'm not having kids. I dont want to bring anyone into this pathetic world we're creating.
This type of thinking needs to be exported to certain ...countries, LOL.
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Old 07-08-2009, 02:49 AM
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Sure our population is low but our emissions are not.

Canada in last place among G8 on climate scorecard from World Wildlife Fund

http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/2...life-fund.html
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We waste so much fresh water. In 10-20 years wars will not be fought over oil but water.
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last place amongst the G8... Really - yet we still emit 10% of the US CO2 emmisions...

http://www.carbonplanet.com/country_emissions

Yeah, but we forget how this work, CO2 acidifies the water, Calcium carbonate disolves, raising pH ... calcium reactor... Reefs have existed during periods where temperatures were much heigher, atmospheric CO2 much heigher...

Lets keep things in perspective...
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Yeah, but we forget how this work, CO2 acidifies the water, Calcium carbonate disolves, raising pH ... calcium reactor... Reefs have existed during periods where temperatures were much heigher, atmospheric CO2 much heigher...

Lets keep things in perspective...

C'mon Andy, you're being lazy :P

Pre-industrial Revolution, variable world oceanic pH was 8.0 to 8.3.
Today's average variable oceanic pH is 7.9 to 8.2.
That's over the course of 150 years.

Prehistorical parallels took tens of thousands, if not millions of years. Acidic oceans are not unprecedented (late-Jurassic ~7.5), but the rate at which they are becoming so is.

There's your perspective.
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I've given up on climate change... I switched to CFL lights (actually putting me down one rung on the environmental ladder, since they contain toxic mercury and my power is all hydro), I don't drive a car, I buy organic and recycled materials (and recycle those that are worth recycling)... What more can I do?

I need to start breeding endangered species in my living room if I'm to be seen as helping (rather than hindering) these days...
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What more can I do?
Sounds like you're doing good to me...
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Andy, the last time rapid ocean acidification occured, there was a mass marine extinction. i think that's all the perspective anyone needs.

as for the calcium reactor point, you forget that reactors are used outside of systems and pH is still normal in the displays. If the pH is high in the display (the ocean in this case), any calcium carbonate that is formed will dissolve.
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last place amongst the G8... Really - yet we still emit 10% of the US CO2 emmisions...

http://www.carbonplanet.com/country_emissions

Yeah, but we forget how this work, CO2 acidifies the water, Calcium carbonate disolves, raising pH ... calcium reactor... Reefs have existed during periods where temperatures were much heigher, atmospheric CO2 much heigher...

Lets keep things in perspective...
The figures in the article are per capita and we dont have as large of a population as the USA. Plus it looks like the article I posted is more current than the site you posted.
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