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globaldesigns · #1 06-24-2009, 04:14 AM

As done by others on a site of the same name as the product (sorry cannot post urls to other forumns), others with Zeo that do use Zeobac have had success with UV usage. What they do is tend to turn off the UV for 1-3 hours when ZeoBac is added. (I will state that there are mixed reviews, but again it is being done)

Here is a quote from that site from a well regard ZeoHead and Admin for this ZEO site:

"Hi (name removed), you can use it temporary, just switch off the UV for about 1 hour after you have dosed ZeoBac."

Now this is what I can tell you has happened with UV and Zeovit. Before UV I had a plankton issue, I had alot and the fish loved it, but I didn't because it also assisted to some algae development and green water. Also I had some coral tissue regression. Even with regular water changes and testing, my tank specs were within proper levels, but I did have this one issue. Since adding the UV, the plankton issue is gone, algae on back wall also almost gone, water is clear and coral has taken off . Yes... the coral is growing quite aggressively. (My tank is majority SPS)

So in my case UV is working even with ZEO...

Remember the main purpose to forums, they are not just for the basics, without some expirementation there isn't any progression in the hobby. Remember others in the past have done things that they got bashed for and today what they did may be a standard practice. This is for many things in life so again remember the purpose of forums, if they are the same blah blah blah from everyone then what is the point.

Have fun all!!!

Jason McK · #2 06-24-2009, 04:58 AM

Sorry but the object of Zeovit is to create an active bacteria culture in your Tank to elliminate nutrients in the system.
The purpose of a UV sterilizer is to kill Bacteria.

Those are the basic functions. they simple can not exist together in the same system.

J

globaldesigns · #3 06-24-2009, 05:05 AM

Another reason I lurk and don't post much, this forum doesn't have too many positives.

It doesn't really matter, I have a beautiful tank and that is all that counts.

Admin, time to lock this thread

Jason McK · #4 06-24-2009, 06:18 AM

My intention was not to offend.
Just pass on knowledge

J

Myka · #5 06-24-2009, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by globaldesigns

Another reason I lurk and don't post much, this forum doesn't have too many positives.

I really don't know why so many people say this. Imo, you see what you want to. There isn't anything negative about sharing information. What a lot of people forget is that so much is lost in translation when people type that you often can't get a grasp for someone's intentions. People are so quick to ask for their threads to be locked when the discussion doesn't go the way they want it to, why not just quit looking? That's what I do!

On topic...UV does definitely help with green water issues. UV has it's place, but not in my tank!

I could see how UV and ZEO would work against eachother, and you would never be able to achieve the full impact of either, but do what works for you. Maybe sometime in the future when your nutrients are low enough you will be able to do away with the UV.

globaldesigns · #6 06-24-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Myka

Maybe sometime in the future when your nutrients are low enough you will be able to do away with the UV.

Myka says something I agree with... Yes, the goal is to eventually turn off or use sparingly. Currently I am only cycling it on when the ZeoReactor isn't (every 3 hours). I am having very positive results, but as you said... hopefully will turn off or use only when needed. I should state it has only been 2 weeks with the UV on, with the results I am getting maybe only another week or so and I will be where I want.

I tend to only lurk here because to many people want to bash, not help (not just this thread but many others), people should ask why I am doing this and what are my results (maybe ask do you have before and after pics, I don't so don't ask, I should of though)... It is ok to have your opinion, but I find people too closed minded, their way or the highway. Again this is just my opinion.

Have fun all!!!

Jason McK · #7 06-24-2009, 04:30 PM

I find it very strange that you have taken such offense to my post that was intended to help save you frustration of dosing Zeobac (a live Bacteria) into your system and then having your UV sterilizer kill all the benefits of the ZeoBac.
In efforts to ensure I was not giving you false information I went to Zeovit.com to check my advise and sure enough http://www.zeovit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15625 states the same thing I have said, Along with page 15 of the ZeoGuide
There is no Bashing in my statements or closed mindedness.

J

Nate · #8 06-24-2009, 05:12 PM

Good old canreef...this is the classic canreef thread

My input would be that the zeo bac would be made less efficient if used with a uv, becasue a UV is used to kill single cell algae and bacteria that flow through it. Thus, if you turn off the UV for a bit after dosing zeobac, or, didn't dose the zeobac into the feed pump of the UV, you would probably be ok, as the zeobac would be able to settle in the zeo rector.

That being said, generally the tanks that run zeo have that stupid fuzzy fine algae and the UV would do absolutely nothing for this.

Wost case setups would be where you would use the same feed pump for the UV and the zeo reactor and everything that goes in the zeo reactor flows first through the UV.

I think you are probably fine running both, but often times a UV is not the most necessary at all time of the aquarium process...that being said, either is zeo...

fkshiu · #9 06-24-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by globaldesigns

I tend to only lurk here because to many people want to bash, not help (not just this thread but many others), people should ask why I am doing this and what are my results (maybe ask do you have before and after pics, I don't so don't ask, I should of though)... It is ok to have your opinion, but I find people too closed minded, their way or the highway. Again this is just my opinion.

Canreef is like a tripped out hippie commune compared to places like Reef Central.

globaldesigns · #10 06-24-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by fkshiu

Canreef is like a tripped out hippie commune compared to places like Reef Central.

HEHE...

Jason, I don't really take offense... I just find that people are one minded... If you went to zeovit.com like you said, you would also see people are doing what I am doing (but you just want to prove your point and keep it to standards, these standards I do know also)... As I stated, what I am doing is working for me, and it isn't a permament thing. I know what zeovit is and what each dose does, I am not STUPID (Zeovit is expensive and I don't want to waste money, with a 300gallon total system it gets expensive), but when you are given a situation you need to look at it and decide how to approach things.

I find with this forum, if it isn't in the book, sorry can't be done. Like I said, sometimes you have to think outside the box.

I think we should end this... no reason to discuss further... I wish everyone the best and again let's have fun!!!