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[Skimmerking]

Originally Posted by i have crabs

buy a qt tank instead of a uv

+1 on that but however, when you get a fish like smaller angels and tangs like powder blues and browns, they usally the first time being shipped that is it they will keep getting it. once that fish is in your tank you have icvk and the only way to rid the tank of ick is the way Lance did it 6 weeks with no fish. to kill off the free floater pests that attach to the fish. Feeding garlic will only cause the ick pests to drop off the fish but they still will live on the bottom waiting for the next fish to appear at night usually that is how it happens. cleaner wrasses are great forthat taking rid of the pests and shrimps too.

but the best way is the 6week method

[fiorano]

allrighty thanks for the advice guys. i was just gonna get one because i though you were supposed to in an sps tank. but if i dont need it that just saves me money

[globaldesigns]

Well, I have to disagree to a point...

I have the corallife 36 watt in my reef tank and everything is actually doing better, fish and coral... I had way too much plankton happening and I couldn't get rid of the last of any algae.

Now in saying this, I run ZEOVIT, the UV has actually helped me to get my tank to a zero nutrient environment. And now the ZEOVIT is really starting to kick in.

I guess it all depends on what you are doing. Good luck

[Myka]

Originally Posted by globaldesigns

Now in saying this, I run ZEOVIT, the UV has actually helped me to get my tank to a zero nutrient environment. And now the ZEOVIT is really starting to kick in.

I guess it all depends on what you are doing. Good luck

Sorry, I have to correct this. If your tank was zero nutrient it would die. ZEOvit encourages low nutrient tanks.

UV sterilizers have their place, which imo is generally on a quarantine tank. In order to kill pathogens though, the wattage has to be much higher than most people think, and the length of exposure needs to be longer as well. For these reasons, UV sterilizers are usually only good for killing algae which is more sensitive.

On a QT I like to run a UV wattage that is 10x the capacity of the tank. So for a 30 gallon QT, get something close to 30w, then have 3x the wattage for turnover, so in this case about 90 gph. I wouldn't recommend this for a display though, it would kill too much beneficial "stuff".

[globaldesigns]

The objective with Zeo is a low nutrient system, so sorry, I didn't reread my post. Zero is very hard to achieve, so low nutrient is always the goal.

Also with Zeovit systems, especially with Europeans, the common is 2 protein skimmers and UV. I am running the same configurations as the europeans and tend to follow their directions more as they seem to have a longer and much more experience with this type of system than North Americans.

Fiorano, my advice to you would be to ask others, but with all the information you get, you then have to make your own decisions. Everyone has different points of view, but it will be up to you to what you wish to do. I have found alot of good advice from others that may have saved me money and time, but I do know that some things I do others would hang me for it. What I have done has worked for me, it may not work for others.

Good luck, but more importantly have FUN!!!

[fiorano]

thanks

[Jason McK]

Originally Posted by globaldesigns

Well, I have to disagree to a point...

I have the corallife 36 watt in my reef tank and everything is actually doing better, fish and coral... I had way too much plankton happening and I couldn't get rid of the last of any algae.

Now in saying this, I run ZEOVIT, the UV has actually helped me to get my tank to a zero nutrient environment. And now the ZEOVIT is really starting to kick in.

I guess it all depends on what you are doing. Good luck

If your running Zeovit and a UV, your UV is killing the beneficial bacteria you pay so much for in the ZeoBac. You should really stop the UV ASAP

[subman]

Originally Posted by Jason McK

If your running Zeovit and a UV, your UV is killing the beneficial bacteria you pay so much for in the ZeoBac. You should really stop the UV ASAP

Yeah that's what I thought!

[o.c.d.]

I remember reading that in the Zeovit Guide when I researched for a friend. Ya page 14 of 25 Highlighted " We would like to emphasize that the use of Ozone or UV sterilizers are not possible with this system. The added microorganisms and elements will be destroyed by its use."...... Must be the North American Version the much more experienced Europeans must have tougher microorganisms that can withstand UV. Isn't learning FUN

[globaldesigns]

As done by others on a site of the same name as the product (sorry cannot post urls to other forumns), others with Zeo that do use Zeobac have had success with UV usage. What they do is tend to turn off the UV for 1-3 hours when ZeoBac is added. (I will state that there are mixed reviews, but again it is being done)

Here is a quote from that site from a well regard ZeoHead and Admin for this ZEO site:

"Hi (name removed), you can use it temporary, just switch off the UV for about 1 hour after you have dosed ZeoBac."

Now this is what I can tell you has happened with UV and Zeovit. Before UV I had a plankton issue, I had alot and the fish loved it, but I didn't because it also assisted to some algae development and green water. Also I had some coral tissue regression. Even with regular water changes and testing, my tank specs were within proper levels, but I did have this one issue. Since adding the UV, the plankton issue is gone, algae on back wall also almost gone, water is clear and coral has taken off . Yes... the coral is growing quite aggressively. (My tank is majority SPS)

So in my case UV is working even with ZEO...

Remember the main purpose to forums, they are not just for the basics, without some expirementation there isn't any progression in the hobby. Remember others in the past have done things that they got bashed for and today what they did may be a standard practice. This is for many things in life so again remember the purpose of forums, if they are the same blah blah blah from everyone then what is the point.

Have fun all!!!