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05-16-2009, 04:27 PM
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True, so "innocent before proven guilty" as always applies. Still would love to know how these are brought in if ORA won't sell them to Canada. I'm sure you would agree though if the laws were lightened a bit people would turn more to aquacultured frags over wild pieces.
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05-16-2009, 04:31 PM
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I know I have brought corals across the border. As long as I physically take them across I've never had troubles. Provided they are not mounted on anything that may resemble liverock, including plugs. Not sure if that would work.
I am very interested to find out how some vendors are able to import ORA, while other can't. Too bad Wicked Frags can't...he is a very good vendor. |
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05-16-2009, 04:59 PM
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Myka, do you know if you "can" get in trouble for this? Luck or no luck, if I went to states and tried to cross the border with 10-15 frags and the boarder gaurd caught you, could you be penalized? I would also love to figure out the ORA situation out. (Maybe then we could finally place an order on reefcentral
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05-16-2009, 05:05 PM
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I have no idea. All I know is that I tell the guard it is "live coral", and he asks how much it's worth, and away I go. Maybe he's not supposed to let me take it??
I'm not sure. It is a very small border crossing. I get people from the US to send it to my US postal box (via UPS or USPS overnight), I pick it up there (which is only about 2 km into the US), and I drive it back through the border. As long as it's less than $100 I rarely get charged any duties. I get orchids the same way, and I know orchids can't cross the border in the mail. I have to go pick them up, and then it's ok.Last edited by Myka; 05-16-2009 at 05:08 PM. |
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05-16-2009, 05:12 PM
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Well thanks for the info, If I ever really need coral from the US then I know how Il get it done
. I have a feeling I'm going to get the gaurd who is having a bad day and just recieved a shipment of new latex gloves though . Dave, your thoughts on the matter? |
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05-16-2009, 05:39 PM
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No guys, all that means is as stated; "ORA does not ship to Canada". They do not ship directly to Canada. That is all you can conclude. To me that doesn't mean it can't be done legally and properly through a third party who purchases them from ORA.
Dave, what is really the intent of all these threads you are starting? I was hoping for a productive conversation on the movement of corals around the world and how import and export works etc. Instead, it seems like you are just wanting to make statements about how it is not possible to bring these corals in Canada and are therefore implying that another vendor is doing something dishonest. I think this is not cool and these threads should be removed. |
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05-16-2009, 10:46 PM
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Though I haven't tried it, I have heard from many people, including an LFS in Portland (Upscales, I think. The home of the original 'Oregon Tort'), that its easy to take frags accross the border. Simply tell the border gaurd that you have live ornamental coral for your home aquarium, and 9 out of 10 times they'll let you through no problem. The 1 out of 10 times is a guard who has no idea what you're talking about, and tells you to go inside and tell them. The guys inside can be sticklers and what to make sure the coral is on the CITIES approved list (no, they don't want to see a CITIES certificate). It can be a hassle, and on a rare occasion they might be rejected, but for the dedicated, it's easy enough to do.
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