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Old 05-14-2009, 03:11 PM
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the way I look at it is. We are all in this together, and if enough people REALY cared there would be more Sea sheppard's out there. A lot of what humans do is just BS.
eg. why is there seal bashing up north? because fishermen have said that the seals eat to much fish and the population is growing.
the human population is growing every second. and we consume more then the earth can replace.... so basically what the whalers and seal clubbers are doing is eliminating the competition.
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Old 05-14-2009, 03:20 PM
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This is a link to the Sea Shepard site... It takes about how Paul Watson started out with Green peace, and how he almost was suffocated by seal hunters. He handcuffed himself to a pile of seal pelts, and they dragged him across the deck of the ship kicking him all the way.

This man has always been a voice for animals even when he was a child. Links to his pages can be found at this main site...

http://www.seashepherd.org/
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Old 05-14-2009, 05:20 PM
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I wonder why so many people seem to care so much for seals and whales yet I do not see much of this at chicken plants or pig slaughter houses. Mr. Watson is not significantly different that PETA, it is a business more than a cause!
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:07 PM
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The whaling industry has changed greatly over the years, initially whaling was to get the oils that the whale had in its blubber. virtually all these oils can be created with synthetics now. As for the differences between PETA and The Sea Shepard society, yes they are both business's..both have had their share of doubters and supporters, however IMO while I believe no animal should suffer, I am not going to get bent out of shape about chickens or pigs as they are "raised" as food animals. Whale and seals aren't raised or farmed they are "culled" and like the fishing industry they are virtually driven to extinction. If chickens or pigs were endangered it might be a different story. Now I dont want to get any chicken or pig lovers against me here so don't spew facts about how chickens and different farm animals are kept or slaughtered. I don't agree with all the methods but I don't agree with a lot of PETA's idea's as well. I do agree that people get a lot more involved when the animals are "cute and cuddly" and are less supportive if they are not a cute animal. say like the slaughter of sharks so to speak, not many people are concerned about the shark harvesting that exists today.....Safe to say is that for the time being there are always going to be different views and the beauty of this is we have the ability to voice our opinions for the most part without censorship and retaliation.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:10 PM
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I wonder why so many people seem to care so much for seals and whales yet I do not see much of this at chicken plants or pig slaughter houses. Mr. Watson is not significantly different that PETA, it is a business more than a cause!
Because there is a huge difference between breeding for slaughter and needlessly slaughtering whales which do not reproduce nearly as fast. I am so sick of that argument. It's not the same thing.
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Sorry that this is un related but I found this relativly funny (sad but funny)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7EV4iF3Iw
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Old 05-14-2009, 09:38 PM
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I know slaughter of farm animals is not pretty... however they have the means of dispatching the animal quickly most times.

I have seen footage of whale hunts, and it is bloody... I have never seen a clean kill, and all the other whales are trying to help the one in need... only to be killed themselves. They struggle and flail as they are being dragged onto the boat and cut apart alive.

I completely agree with dsaundry's comments. I posted and asked why this still happens, and never did ask what people thought of farm animals being started

At least with cattle and many animals their hides are made into leather and suede, and the entire body does not go to waste. They pretty much use it all up for one thing or another. What happens to a deal whale?
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I don't see a problem with it only if it is controlled and regulated by law. Yes it does look bloody and horrible but face the facts everyone we eat animals cow chicken fish... or in this discussion whales. Remember this is my opinion please don't get angry.
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Old 05-14-2009, 10:26 PM
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Do we need to eat endangered animals/mammals? IMO it would be hard to eat something that you know is endangered.
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