Blue Ringed Octopus

[gobytron]

well aware of how poisonous they are...
thanks for the recap though.

and what is dawinian?
I think you meant darwinian?
sounds like you yourself might want to chalk one up for ol' darwin.
or maybe you could point out where I went to wrong in my set up rather than sit safely on the sidelines and point with your friends?
You guys act like I haven't read up about this animal, but I have and I am undaunted, even by this gregarious board.

Okay, so they are poisonous
anything else?

again, hopefully something beyond the herd mentality of it's too scary and nobody does it, so don't do it?

I know you're all enjoying a laugh together here but I am going to purchase this animal, The tank is and will be escape proof and I have no kids and don't plan on hand feeding, petting or interacting with this creature beyond feeding it, keeping it mentally stimulated and ensuring water quality, so if anyone can offer me some advise on how to keep it alive for as long possible (up to three years from my research) please do.

[Todd]

Originally Posted by gobytron

and what is dawinian?
I think you meant darwinian?
sounds like you yourself might want to chalk one up for ol' darwin.
You guys act like I haven't read up about this animal, but I have and I am undaunted, even by this gregarious board.

Big words for someone living in vacnouver.

[TheRealBigAL]

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[untamed]

I'm thinking about the Prism Pro....that is a hang on skimmer. You need some sort of plan that would allow the skimmer to flow into the top of the tank without the top of the tank having any opening at all. Maybe a fine mesh top that the skimmer flows through? Sounds like a salty mess in the making, however.

No answer from me...but you'll have to think that part through. Obviously, the top of the tank needs to be completely sealed. My understanding is that the octopus will squeeze through any opening smaller than it's beak. They are also strong for their size, so the top will have to be heavier than you expect so he just can't push it up/off.

I doubt you will find this a very interesting pet. It will probably hide virtually all the time. Small octopus are also not reputed to live very long...although I don't know the specifics of the blue-ring. Please share your tank build and experience (good or bad) so that others on the board can learn from your experience.

[KPG007]

Originally Posted by gobytron

well aware of how poisonous they are...
thanks for the recap though.

and what is dawinian?
I think you meant darwinian?
sounds like you yourself might want to chalk one up for ol' darwin.
You guys act like I haven't read up about this animal, but I have and I am undaunted, even by this gregarious board.

Okay, so they are poisonous
anything else?

again, hopefully something beyond the herd mentality of it's too scary and nobody does it, so don't do it?

Spelling corrections from a guy who lives in Vacnouver.....

I think the people on here are just pointing out the extreme danger of the animal, as you have not made it clear (until your last post) that you understand them.
As for input, if you're willing to take on the risk, go for it. Let us know how it works out. Post some pics too, I'd love to see it!

[gobytron]

this is really what happens when you post for advice on this board?
is everyone always this condescending?
like, who peed in your reef tanks this morning?


the Vacnouver is a joke between myself and a friend on this board btw and fyi.
but maybe I should change it now that I see how people are judged here.

[my2rotties]

Thank you for the awesome info...

[Delphinus]

You ask for advice, you get advice. Sometimes the answer isn't what you want to hear, doesn't make it condescending.

If you go for it, I wish you the best of luck with it. Heck, please post pictures, they're beautiful. But understand that this is a really silly way to underwrite such a huge risk to yourself. It's one thing to take upon the risk yourself but what of to those who visit you or live with you?

I don't see how the care of one would be any different than for any other octopus species. Just don't touch it I guess. I still don't understand the appeal, but, whatever.

[Zoaelite]

Originally Posted by Delphinus

You ask for advice, you get advice. Sometimes the answer isn't what you want to hear, doesn't make it condescending.

If you go for it, I wish you the best of luck with it. Heck, please post pictures, they're beautiful. But understand that this is a really silly way to underwrite such a huge risk to yourself. It's one thing to take upon the risk yourself but what of to those who visit you or live with you?

I don't see how the care of one would be any different than for any other octopus species. Just don't touch it I guess. I still don't understand the appeal, but, whatever.

Well put Tony, gobytron one of the major things you need to learn about this board is that the people here are not out to get you, were not here to put down your ideas or gang up on you and flame the crap out of you. Simply put the people on this board are just concerned for the well being of the creatures we look after and the friends we make here.

IMO getting a blue ring is an absolutely horrible idea, sealed tank or not, there's a reason that venomous reptiles are not aloud to be imported/ sold and I think that should apply to the blue ring. THERE IS NO CURE, if you get bit unless you make it to the hospital you die, simple as that. Cephalopods are Re-nound for dying in captivity and relatively fast, I know people that don't even get them home and there dead in the bag. Fundamentally your argument of "its already at the Pet store" is really flawed, if you PAY MONEY for it, the store says "wow we just made a profit on that lets bring in more deadly animals" and letting Big Als do this is as good as murdering people... If you decide to go ahead with it, good luck I would love to see some photos but you have to determine if the benefits out weigh the costs.

EDIT.

EDIT: untamed posted pretty much the same thing as me at the same time. Is there an echo in here?

Lol I think there is, in the span of 5 mins like 7 people posted page long posts of all very similar info. Eh great minds think alike?

[Delphinus]

I sincerely hope that this is a case of mistaken identity.

I saw a bluering octopus once at a vendor when I first entered the hobby some ten years ago or so. Beautiful creatures but to be honest I would not say more so than any other small octopus species. There are so many other options available for small species of octopus that realistically offer the same enjoyment but don't pose such a serious risk of instant-death to the unsuspecting consumer. In this case I don't think it was offered for sale, it was a bycatch or whatever, one of those "it was in the box." (In this day and age, I can't believe that this sort of thing would show up as a sustitution or whatever.)

In any case, I don't think this is something that should be offered so casually as a "look what's available this week" sort of thing. IMO this species shouldn't be available.. there are others that are less dangerous and I dunno, but an octopus is octopus .. is it really necessary to have the machismo associated with keeping a bluering? I can't really understand any other reason why one would want one.

Jus my $0.02. I'm really hoping it's just a case of mistaken identity.