Marine Velvet horribleness

[fishoholic]

Originally Posted by Leah

I was scared to ask yesterday but did it effect both tanks?
Again sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sorry for you!

Yes both tanks are all plumbed together through a 90g sump. Had to pull out all the fish from both displays and QT'd them all. That's why there is so many dead, it effected everyone Still have to catch the red corris wrasse from the fowlr display, I can't believe how good he is at hidding. Was just thinking about it and since this past thrusday (april 16) I have lost 16 fish, how ironic

Edit: some people are wondering who's left etc. so I will edit my original post and add 2 lists of who's made it and who hasn't

[Atomikk]

Do you have any chance to copper treat your fish in a QT? If so, I think you should. FW dips will not work. Trust me on this. You will only stress the fish out even more.

[my2rotties]

Hey Laurie I am hoping the last of them pull through since they endured the very worst. I wonder if you should put anti biotics in the water at some point to help the healing fish not get infections. I would perhaps look into that since they survived this long and you probably don't want an infection to set in in their weakened state. I have no idea if this would be an issue but I am just trying to think ahead of "Murphy's law". I almost have a feeling that you might have to, but really don't know for sure.

Anyone else have any advise on this?

[marie]

Originally Posted by Atomikk

Do you have any chance to copper treat your fish in a QT? If so, I think you should. FW dips will not work. Trust me on this. You will only stress the fish out even more.

She is treating them with copper, the fresh water dips is an attempt to give the fish a bit of relief

Originally Posted by my2rotties

Hey Laurie I am hoping the last of them pull through since they endured the very worst. I wonder if you should put anti biotics in the water at some point to help the healing fish not get infections. I would perhaps look into that since they survived this long and you probably don't want an infection to set in in their weakened state. I have no idea if this would be an issue but I am just trying to think ahead of "Murphy's law". I almost have a feeling that you might have to, but really don't know for sure.

Anyone else have any advise on this?

Probably not a good idea while the fish are still undergoing copper treatment. Adding too many things to the water could make the water quality go south.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by marie

She is treating them with copper, the fresh water dips is an attempt to give the fish a bit of relief



Probably not a good idea while the fish are still undergoing copper treatment. Adding too many things to the water could make the water quality go south.

I agree. One treatment at a time IMO. Copper will work if dosed properly.

[my2rotties]

Very good point indeed. Would the copper keep any bacteria at bay during treatment? After they are done treatment should they be put on anti biotics just in case? I just wonder what the typical protocol is for people that have a serious disease to deal with, since it seems so many things could go wrong. Now I wonder if I should treat any new fish with an anti biotic soak prior to going into the system.

Originally Posted by marie

Probably not a good idea while the fish are still undergoing copper treatment. Adding too many things to the water could make the water quality go south.

[marie]

Originally Posted by my2rotties

Very good point indeed. Would the copper keep any bacteria at bay during treatment? After they are done treatment should they be put on anti biotics just in case? I just wonder what the typical protocol is for people that have a serious disease to deal with, since it seems so many things could go wrong. Now I wonder if I should treat any new fish with an anti biotic soak prior to going into the system.

No please don't, using antibiotics as a prophylactic is a bad idea. There are enough problems with bacteria building immunity to available antibiotics.
Quarantining new fish for a full 8 weeks should give enough time for any problems to make themselves known. Once problems are known then they can be treated appropriately

[fishoholic]

Thanks Marie for answering Atomikk question for me, it's exactly what I would of said.

I will be doing only one treatment at a time. However I was wondering how to help the sohal heal his open wounds, if he makes it through the copper treatment.

Just called home (haven't left work yet) and my sailfin tang and my female clownfish are dead. I have to say this really sucks! Everyday for the past week it's like "who's turn it is to die today" I will be glad when this whole ordeal is over and I pray that some of them survive it.

[my2rotties]

Please don't think I am suggesting anything to Laurie... I just see fish at the LFS being treated with antibiotics, or other things in separate tanks quite often. This is why I made mention of it... I do often wonder what the immune systems will be like on my fish when they come home.

Originally Posted by marie

No please don't, using antibiotics as a prophylactic is a bad idea. There are enough problems with bacteria building immunity to available antibiotics.
Quarantining new fish for a full 8 weeks should give enough time for any problems to make themselves known. Once problems are known then they can be treated appropriately

[my2rotties]

This is why I mentioned antibiotics... I just didn't know what you do for that.

Originally Posted by fishoholic

I will be doing only one treatment at a time. However I was wondering how to help the sohal heal his open wounds, if he makes it through the copper treatment.