What size plumbing?

[Parker]

Opps I was too late with my thoughts...

[mark]

A Herbie standpipe potentially could flow more in that it's a siphon but then to create the Herbie you're restricting the flow with a valve to have the water back up over the top of the stand pipe.

Would think for estimating probably not to far off with the commonly used gravity flow rates (~600gph for the 1").

[sphelps]

Well we can dispute this forever but if you measure the pressure in the drain line (near the base) a Herbie will show a higher pressure than a Durso as no air will be in the line. A Durso may typically show close to atmospheric pressure while a Herbie will show a pressure equal to the height of the water above it. More pressure means a higher velocity and therefore more flow. How much more? Hard to say as it will totally depend on the setup. You can also eliminate most of the air from a Durso style drain if done correctly. Some people will see more dramatic results from a change over because their Durso style drain was never done correctly, while others don't notice anything.

The bottom line here however is that the main purpose of a Herbie style overflow is not more flow but rather noise and air bubble reduction. If you want more flow you should increase the pipe size or add a second drain, it really is as simple as that.

[mark]

Hey I'm not arguing but seen on RC someone was figuring he could get 1000gph from a 1" drain, seemed a bit much.

[golf nut]

Originally Posted by sphelps

The bottom line here however is that the main purpose of a Herbie style overflow is not more flow but rather noise and air bubble reduction.

Exactly.

[golf nut]

Originally Posted by sphelps

If you want more flow you should increase the pipe size or add a second drain, it really is as simple as that.

And if you make the overflow the correct size there will be no noise and no need for a Durso.