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Old 04-13-2009, 10:31 PM
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Using a herbie will not give you more draining capacity.
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Old 04-13-2009, 10:44 PM
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If the Herbie style is a siphon type feed rather than a Durso type, providing the diameters are the same there should be substantial increase with the Herbie

Which exact pump do you have? may as well know its capacity to form an educated opinion.
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:00 PM
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Which exact pump do you have? may as well know its capacity to form an educated opinion.
Don't think Canuck was looking for an opinion on the pump, just if a Herbie of the same diameter would flow the same/more/less.
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Old 04-13-2009, 11:43 PM
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never ran a herbie but took some physics years ago and it would tell me that a herbie (creating a full syphon with ZERO air) will drain much better than a durso style drain (air takes up space) a 1" durso gives you 600 gph a herbie style drain 1" would not surprise me if it was capable of 900-1000 gph(this was just a guess) i wish i went herbie style so its silent
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:37 AM
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I guess the best way to know is to do it.
I'm re-doing my entire setup anyways....so good time as any.
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Old 04-14-2009, 12:57 AM
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the main reason a Herbie flows more is head pressure, a standard durso or other standpipe operates at essentially zero head pressure while a Herbie has head pressure equal to the height of the overflow.

Out of curiosity why not share the model number of that pump?

Also when you branch of a line you don't look at it as a single system, for example, ignoring pipe friction, if you have two lines going up 8' you only have 8' of head pressure not 16'. So with your system you haven't analyzed it properly, you have less head pressure than you think.

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Old 04-14-2009, 01:05 AM
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if you have two lines going up 8' you only have 8' of head pressure not 16'. So with your system you haven't analyzed it properly, you have less head pressure than you think.
beat me to it, providing it is done properly.
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