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Old 04-09-2009, 04:35 AM
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I guess that this is a fairly new set up. I would wait for the tank to cycle before adding anything to it. Then start with a small clean up crew.
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Old 04-09-2009, 04:43 AM
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OK, thanks. I will do that. I think the inverts are fairly hardy anyways... I don't want to throw everything out the window by waiting. The tank has been up for just over 3 weeks and has now finished cycling/breaking-in per my test kits, so I will give it a week or two before anything goes in. That will give my time to plan it, too.
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Old 04-09-2009, 05:16 AM
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Inverts are actually more sensitive to water chemistry than fish are. Wait until you have 0 ammonia, 0 nitrites, and <10 ppm nitrates. Once the first two are down, do waterchanges until the third is achieved. You can read through the tank cycling guide in my signature too if you want.
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Old 04-09-2009, 11:22 AM
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Nice rock scape. if you have a glass top i might drop the light right on top of the tank. i have found that with only 2x24 w on my 10G doesnt really raise the tank temp and gives much better light penitration to the bottom of the tank. i have 4 types of sps and some zoas in this tank and all seem to be doing well. just my opinion.
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Old 04-09-2009, 02:23 PM
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thanks, Myka. you're right, inverts are more sensitive to poor water...

so why does everyone start with a CUC? especially as there's not a lot for them to eat yet, IMO.

Either way, I will plan this carefully... ElGuappo seems to have quite a few critters in his tank... and I wanted TWO snails! I thought shrimps were out of the question due to the size of the tank...

I didn't test for nitrates, but I hope they're low... the tank is getting a water change no matter what...

something in the back of my mind tells me to stop by the LF on the way home...
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thanks, Myka. you're right, inverts are more sensitive to poor water...

so why does everyone start with a CUC? especially as there's not a lot for them to eat yet, IMO.
Ya your tank is too small for a shrimp....unless you spot feed often. I've had trouble keeping them in my 33g, but I don't spot feed.

People start with a CUC for a couple main reasons; they are cheap and "disposable" (I disagree on the second part) which makes them good for kamikaze work, and they get on top of the algae before it becomes a problem. A big mistake many people make is that they pick out a HUUUUUGE CUC and slam it into a mostly barren tank, and 3/4 of them die from starvation. Wow, that was a good waste of money. Websites suggest 1 snail and 1 hermit per gallon. That's ridiculous. Some people may require a CUC of that size, but not until the tank has matured. Be aware that hermits are predacious and will often kill snails when they are hungry or just to steal their shells. Many people (myself included) dont' keep hermits just because of this. Scarlet hermits are the lesser of the evils, with Mini Blue legs next. Start off with a small CUC (like 2 or 3 like you intended), and add more as you see fit and as your tank matures.

I find Astreas (my fav), Trochus, and Turbos live the longest. Nassarius die left, right, and center (in my tank anyway, they rarely last over a year in my tank) but are good for eating detritus, and cerith aren't far behind (|and pretty useless imo). Margaritas are a temperate species and shouldn't be kept in tropical tanks (unbeknownst to way too many people) which is too bad because they are one of the best algae eaters. What am I missing? Bumble Bee snails are not always reef-safe. Oh Ring Cowries are pretty cool, but aren't very hardy and don't do much imo, wait until your tank matures, and even then you will probably lose half of them within the first 6 months, but the remainder will be hardy.
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Old 04-09-2009, 06:55 PM
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I see I see..

I couldn't wait, so I.... took a trip to the LFS... they have lots of little snails and lots of little crabs, but I won't give in, crabs are evil, mine used to fight all the time...

They do have very very small cleaner shrimps, like an inch long, but they grow, right?
I'll have a cleaner shrimp later on in my 33gal... for now, I will buy a snail or two and go from there...

are pruple firefish hardy fish?
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