ZEO weekly water changes?

[lobsterboy]

i did try the deltec salt as well, it was ok, but nothing like what i had seen in the purple digi, and when using the deltec, i found that i was losing color on the sps. then had went back to the KZ salt and it took about 2 wc;s to get back what i once had.
i cannot tell you the science behind what makes good salt. and your right "its so hard to know whats making things better once you start ZEO" if your looking for an answer to this and have time, stop using zeo for a month or 2 and see if there really is a difference.
all tanks are different, and there are so many factors involved.
best thing to do is email KZ and i have in the past, and ask a few questions and get it right from the horses mouth.

Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer

I did try the salt and never saw a difference. I also was not impressed with it. I am using the Deltec salt now and seen a difference using it. Now that could just be ZEO kicking in...

How do you know the salt is making the difference? Not saying your wrong (not going to argue with the results of your tank ) but its so hard to know whats making things better once you start ZEO. Which in the end really doesn't matter--if its working, keep doing it and be happy I have just had a hard time figuring out what is working and why...I stopped with coral snow for a week and a half and got cyano, so I am quite sure it does help with cyano. I guess I could go back to the KZ salt now and see what happens.

I have been very happy with the Deltec salt and with stick with it but I was just curious as to why so many water changes. As time goes on and this tank matures, I will be doing less.

I may also grab some KZ salt and use both. I actually did mix them together about 50/50 for a month awhile back. I think I will do that again.

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Originally Posted by lobsterboy

i did try the deltec salt as well, it was ok, but nothing like what i had seen in the purple digi, and when using the deltec, i found that i was losing color on the sps. then had went back to the KZ salt and it took about 2 wc;s to get back what i once had.
i cannot tell you the science behind what makes good salt. and your right "its so hard to know whats making things better once you start ZEO" if your looking for an answer to this and have time, stop using zeo for a month or 2 and see if there really is a difference.
all tanks are different, and there are so many factors involved.
best thing to do is email KZ and i have in the past, and ask a few questions and get it right from the horses mouth.

Well...you have convinced me to try the KZ salt again

I was just looking at your tank pics

[lobsterboy]

Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer

Well...you have convinced me to try the KZ salt again

I was just looking at your tank pics

try it again and do the 5% every 2weeks, for a month and if your not liking the results, then use the deltec.
i have 1/4 a bucket of deltec here i can ship out to ya.

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Originally Posted by lobsterboy

try it again and do the 5% every 2weeks, for a month and if your not liking the results, then use the deltec.
i have 1/4 a bucket of deltec here i can ship out to ya.

Ok sure...you pay the shipping right

You know I only used the KZ salt at the start of ZEO, so I really should have given it a longer shot. I can't really even remember why I didn't like it.

I actually change more than 5% a week right now. I change about 10% or 25G which is becoming costly. I think I will go to 5% (12G) or maybe as low as 5G a week to make things really easy. We'll see. Maybe 5G of Deltec and 5G of KZ each week

[lobsterboy]

Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer

Ok sure...you pay the shipping right

You know I only used the KZ salt at the start of ZEO, so I really should have given it a longer shot. I can't really even remember why I didn't like it.

I actually change more than 5% a week right now. I change about 10% or 25G which is becoming costly. I think I will go to 5% (12G) or maybe as low as 5G a week to make things really easy. We'll see. Maybe 5G of Deltec and 5G of KZ each week

trust me, i was doing 10% wc using just RBS and it was just making the SPS lighter. try the 5%, your saving time and money.
and i was just checking out yout thread. about the kh dropping like crazy, i had the same thing happen to me, as i said the RBS blows for buffering your tank, i dose now 75ml carbonate in the night, and 5tsp ca in the morning, just to keep the levels of kh-6-7.5 and ca- 380-430
growth has been insane, and the shipping costs,
maybe if i am ever out there i will bring it along.

[Mrfish55]

Does the salt really make that big a diff? I switched from IO a month ago to
H2O and in the last 4 weeks have lost two of my fav. SPS to RTN (10% water change per wk. on 300 gal system) I have been using Instant ocean for the past 18 years without issue and decided to try higher end mix figuring better results and am quite dissapointed. For the extra cash is it really worth it? I see tanks like Marie has and she has phenominal growth and color without the high end salts or the Zeo system.

[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Originally Posted by Mrfish55

Does the salt really make that big a diff? I switched from IO a month ago to
H2O and in the last 4 weeks have lost two of my fav. SPS to RTN (10% water change per wk. on 300 gal system) I have been using Instant ocean for the past 18 years without issue and decided to try higher end mix figuring better results and am quite dissapointed. For the extra cash is it really worth it? I see tanks like Marie has and she has phenominal growth and color without the high end salts or the Zeo system.

I think it does. IO has basically nothing in it. You end up supplementing so much Ca, Mg and ALK that IMO its not worth it for anything other than a FOWLR tank.

But I mean, if you don't need it, don't bother...use IO if its working for you.