Emperor Angel in a Reef

GreenSpottedPuffer · #1 03-30-2009, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fishoholic

From what I understand if you start off with a small juvi you should have less problems with it eating corals then a larger/adult. My emperor left my softies and LPS alone and I got him as a small 2-3" juvi. Not sure about SPS though. I think michika had one in her tank with sps and it left her corals alone but I'm not 100% sure.

Thats what I was thinking but I guess you still never know.

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Originally Posted by my2rotties

Mine never bothered with SPS, but he LOVED Frogspawn, scolmias, donuts, zoas and mushrooms.

That could be a problem.

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Originally Posted by naesco

Everything you want to know about large angelfish
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2008...rchterm=angels

and part 2

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2008...rchterm=angels

Wayne

Thanks, that helps a lot.

Seems like its totally hit or miss. Plus my tank isn't really big enough.

I also of course worry about the collection and problems with these species. I would not be buying from a LFS but instead from another source which I trust a little more (no offense to LFS

) and thie fish would not be going through a bunch of tanks/wholesalers but still...

Probably won't take the risk. I think another 'easy' to care for (and smaller) tang would be a better choice.

GreenSpottedPuffer · #2 03-30-2009, 04:35 AM

The interesting thing is that on the other side of the world, my father tells me that these are very common fish to keep and considered very easy. He lives in Singapore where I guess they special order a lot of fish that are literally caught and shipped direct to them then next day (and arrive at the airport same day). I suppose this takes a lot of stress off the fishes and gives them a much better chance. Since he orders all his fish through the same collectors and they go straight to his tank, he has never had ich...must be nice

Expensive though!

spoot · #3 03-30-2009, 08:50 AM

I wonder if he can ship some stuff here? That would be a great source to get really good fish.

Maybe a tomini tang for something small. He'd definitely help out with the grazing

GreenSpottedPuffer · #4 03-30-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by spoot

I wonder if he can ship some stuff here? That would be a great source to get really good fish.

Maybe a tomini tang for something small. He'd definitely help out with the grazing

Well he is coming in May and is bringing me some coral already

. He is just paying for the permits. Im not sure if he wants to being fish though.

GreenSpottedPuffer · #5 03-30-2009, 04:32 PM

Based on this:

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2005/7/fish

A Majestic may be a better choice. Seems the Pomacanthus angels don't really pick at sps at all, mostly just LPS and some softies. I guess I could live with that since my tank is mostly sps and to be honest I only care about the sps because its so much more expensive than the softies I have or the one or two small LPS I have.

Still prefer the Emperor though

Tom R · #6 03-30-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer

Based on this:

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2005/7/fish

A Majestic may be a better choice. Seems the Pomacanthus angels don't really pick at sps at all, mostly just LPS and some softies. I guess I could live with that since my tank is mostly sps and to be honest I only care about the sps because its so much more expensive than the softies I have or the one or two small LPS I have.

Still prefer the Emperor though

Hi Justin

That is my thoughts exactly.

I would rather have the Angels in my tank nipping at the odd zoe or coral than not have the Angels at all. I do however stay away from the meaty LPS corals.

Tom R

GreenSpottedPuffer · #7 03-30-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom R

Hi Justin

That is my thoughts exactly.

I would rather have the Angels in my tank nipping at the odd zoe or coral than not have the Angels at all. I do however stay away from the meaty LPS corals.

Tom R

So what angels do you have?

I still haven't made it over to see your tanks

I do have a decent amount of Zoas and do care about them...but I mean, I can always sell them off. For LPS, I have a small hammer, frogspawn and thats it really. I also have some leathers and gorgonians but i can't see them caring about that.

I was hoping to add some acans and maze corals which may be out.

But really, I can live with that if it means keeping an angel like the Emperor

Has anyone had an Emperor that nipped sps?

Oh and obviously finding one that is eating is important. So will the fact that I feed my fish so much and all throughout the day help? I figure it must stop them from getting bored or hungry and going after corals.

spoot · #8 03-31-2009, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer

Well he is coming in May and is bringing me some coral already

. He is just paying for the permits. Im not sure if he wants to being fish though.

Nice! There is no import restrictions on tropical fish for personal use, so you wouldn't even need any extra permits

GreenSpottedPuffer · #9 03-31-2009, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by spoot

Nice! There is no import restrictions on tropical fish for personal use, so you wouldn't even need any extra permits

Oh ok, good to know.

He said he needs them for corals. Even though the corals are coming from his tank.

wisesam · #10 03-31-2009, 06:18 AM

I suppose hard corals need CITES to clear.
Ornamental fish or inverts you don't. I've brought back shrimp from Taiwan before without any problem. Just declare them and they'll take a look at the agriculture inspection station, which wasn't much hassle for me.