Holding a Huge Mantis (video )

[my2rotties]

What does one have to do with the other? I do not boast about the things I have done, and show off to others. I do not promote anything I have done to anyone else, or give advise or suggestions on things I have no right to say anything about. Actually you would never know a thing about the mistakes I have made, unless I admitted to them and posted about it, right?

What this video does is promotes the exploitation of a creature that does not like to be touched to others that now want one, because they are cool and you can wow your friends with your bravery.

Have you ever seen me post to anyone encouraging anything I have done?

Give me a break.

Originally Posted by JDigital

I really doubt you would want anyone wishing bad things on you or your tank, for the irresponsible decisions you've made (that a lot of us have made). Then to turn around and say he deserves to get nailed, and possibly risk the loss of a finger or worse, because of a irresponsible choice on his part, you need to give your head a shake.

I'm not saying that what he did was smart, I don't think anyone in this thread is, but by no means does he deserve to nailed by it.

[JDigital]

Originally Posted by my2rotties

What does one have to do with the other? I do not boast about the things I have done, and show off to others. I do not promote anything I have done to anyone else, or give advise or suggestions on things I have no right to say anything about. Actually you would never know a thing about the mistakes I have made, unless I admitted to them and posted about it, right?

What this video does is promotes the exploitation of a creature that does not like to be touched to others that now want one, because they are cool and you can wow your friends with your bravery.

Have you ever seen me post to anyone encouraging anything I have done?

Give me a break.

I never mentioned anything about you "showing off" or "boasting", nor is that the point of my rebuttal. My point is, I think its disgusting that you would wish ill fortune on someone for a mistake they made.

People let him know its a bad idea, but I don't see anyone wishing the loss of a finger, which is possible. Granted I have better things to do than read through 100+ youtube comments, and I'm sure there is a few "cool man!" comments, but the people who know better have posted, and should be a warning for anyone else. (quoted below)

Maybe posting this video has given the kid an eye opener from the people commenting, who know its a mistake to try that, and will think twice before he does it again.

Even the last quote, "cool vid, but I wouldn't grab one".

I hope for his sake it doesn't happen, but at the very least he could try not manipulating the damn thing like a toy.
It also looks like at 1:15 that the shrimp doesn't have any hiding places. Not good.

You better be careful. Divers call them thumb-splitters for a reason.
If it just molted (probably did, looks pale) I wouldn't dare do that again. If not....I can't believe you tamed that thing.
Try giving it a platform to stand on with your hand rather than just holding it around its body - it'll feel less threatened and you should still be able to pick it up.

your an idiot! those animals are extremely dangerous and can break your thumb!

wow. i thought that they would pinch your hands with their lightning fast "mantis pinchers of death thingies" they are pretty scary. i wouldnt grab mine. well if i had one. i want one thought. thats awesome dude. great vid.

[fishoholic]

There are times when some people only learn things from doing them the hard way. That being said while it would be good for him to learn a lesson here and not play with a mantis like that, I'm sure no one wants that lesson to be him loosing a finger.

I know I've thought (and I'm sure others have to) "serves you right, getting hurt for doing something so stupid" but usually that is only when someone wasn't hurt to bad, but bad enough to learn their lesson and not do it again. For example: jumping a bicycle over a ramp, falling off and scraping your knee. Gee that was dumb won't be doing that again. Pretty sure no one would wish that the bicycler would break their neck if they fell in order to learn a lesson.

[my2rotties]

A mantis is not going to kill or seriously maim someone beyond recognition. If I wished that upon the guy, that would be disgusting. I don't wish bad things to happen to people if it is life threatening or altering. I am actually a decent person but I will pretty much always side with the animals when people get hurt.

This creature has no way else to defend itself or tell the guy to leave him alone. I can tell you that they do not like being touched or disturbed at all. This poor creature has had to endure this treatment for how long? This guy just knows its striking range and how to grab it where it cannot defend itself. It may look brave on the video, but the guy just has learned it's limitations and knows it cannot strike him. I knew these areas because I had to try to work around my mantis to clean his tank or remove dead things he had as left overs.

Perhaps I might seem barbaric because I have to opportunity to study mine for many hours and learn a lot about him and his behavior.

If this animal is still alive, how much more of this does he have to endure? This guy will continue to handle him, unless he can strike him just once to make it known there is a line to be drawn. Perhaps when things are written on a forum it is easy to judge the writer without really knowing the reason behind the comment.

Sorry but I hope the mantis gets a shot in on the owner so perhaps he can live a peaceful isolated existence that he deserves to live. People will always push an animal until someday it gets the chance to defend itself...

Call me disgusting but this animal deserves to have a peaceful life and will not have that until it does have the chance to get the owner's attention. The only way it can do that is by striking him... No matter what people say to warn the owner of the potential harm it can do, he will keep doing it. Why? Because he has gotten away with it for as long as he has.

Sad as it is... the only way that mantis can convey a message is by giving the guy what he deserves. I actually do not want to see it, I just wish the mantis would do it.

Sorry if we cannot agree on this but we both have valid points as to why we feel the way that we do...

Originally Posted by JDigital

I never mentioned anything about you "showing off" or "boasting", nor is that the point of my rebuttal. My point is, I think its disgusting that you would wish ill fortune on someone for a mistake they made.

People let him know its a bad idea, but I don't see anyone wishing the loss of a finger, which is possible. Granted I have better things to do than read through 100+ youtube comments, and I'm sure there is a few "cool man!" comments, but the people who know better have posted, and should be a warning for anyone else. (quoted below)

Maybe posting this video has given the kid an eye opener from the people commenting, who know its a mistake to try that, and will think twice before he does it again.

Even the last quote, "cool vid, but I wouldn't grab one".