Lance's 225 gal tank

Lance · #1 03-19-2009, 04:39 AM

So, the fish have been in QT now for 8 days. Everything is going pretty well, aside from the fact that I'm going through salt like crazy. Between the 225g, 90g, and 180g and 3 sumps I have about 600gals on the go, and I'm having to change about 30 gals of water in the QT every 3 days to keep the ammonia levels down. It's kind of a catch-22: You want to feed the fish well to keep them healthy but at the same time it's hard to keep ammonia down. If I don't change some water frequently the ammonia level rises quite rapidly. I'm treating with Cupramine right now. I'm trying to find some info on using ammonia inhibitors such as Amquel in conjunction with copper treatment, but can't anything anything. Does anybody know if this can be done? Or will it cause adverse effects?

Lance · #2 03-23-2009, 03:22 AM

The display tank has now been empty for 11 days and in that short time the pod population has just exploded. I can't believe how many there are.

Every square inch of the tank has some, and the sump has even more. The fish are going to have a feast when they get back in.

GreenSpottedPuffer · #3 03-23-2009, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance

So, the fish have been in QT now for 8 days. Everything is going pretty well, aside from the fact that I'm going through salt like crazy. Between the 225g, 90g, and 180g and 3 sumps I have about 600gals on the go, and I'm having to change about 30 gals of water in the QT every 3 days to keep the ammonia levels down. It's kind of a catch-22: You want to feed the fish well to keep them healthy but at the same time it's hard to keep ammonia down. If I don't change some water frequently the ammonia level rises quite rapidly. I'm treating with Cupramine right now. I'm trying to find some info on using ammonia inhibitors such as Amquel in conjunction with copper treatment, but can't anything anything. Does anybody know if this can be done? Or will it cause adverse effects?

I have used Amquel with copper in the past. I never really thought of it much, just did it. I don't think it caused any problems. All it does is make it hard to test for ammonia. If I use it, I end up just adding some day and night everyday to be sure. Its relatively cheap compared to doing water changes.

Lance · #4 03-23-2009, 04:46 AM

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I have used Amquel with copper in the past. I never really thought of it much, just did it. I don't think it caused any problems. All it does is make it hard to test for ammonia. If I use it, I end up just adding some day and night everyday to be sure. Its relatively cheap compared to doing water changes.

LOL I just gave the tank a good dose of Amquel today. I figured if it was dangerous to use with copper I would have found some info on that.

GreenSpottedPuffer · #5 03-27-2009, 12:46 AM

Any updates? How are they doing?

Lance · #6 03-27-2009, 02:32 AM

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Any updates? How are they doing?

Well, Kinda good and bad. I thought I had the Ich beaten. I hadn't seen any sign of it for over a week. The two-week copper treatment ended Tuesday. Then yesterday I noticed a few spots on the Bannerfish, so it's still there. I guess I should continue the copper a little longer, but using this stuff makes me very nervous. I'm going to try hyposalinity as well I think. They are all eating well and look good. Thanks for asking.

GreenSpottedPuffer · #7 03-27-2009, 03:07 AM

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Well, Kinda good and bad. I thought I had the Ich beaten. I hadn't seen any sign of it for over a week. The two-week copper treatment ended Tuesday. Then yesterday I noticed a few spots on the Bannerfish, so it's still there. I guess I should continue the copper a little longer, but using this stuff makes me very nervous. I'm going to try hyposalinity as well I think. They are all eating well and look good. Thanks for asking.

I have been told in the past not to do hypo and copper at the same time. Not sure if you meant your plan was both at once and maybe its fine but I would look into it.

Good luck. Sorry to hear its come back

Man I HATE ich so much!!!!

Lance · #8 03-27-2009, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer

I have been told in the past not to do hypo and copper at the same time. Not sure if you meant your plan was both at once and maybe its fine but I would look into it.

Good luck. Sorry to hear its come back

Man I HATE ich so much!!!!

No, not simultaeously. I've got the salinity at 1.022 in the QT. Will start hypo after copper treatment.
Yes Ich sucks! I'm so glad my SF Tang recovered. He was absolutely covered; looked like someone rolled him in salt. I thought he was a goner.