Total Failure

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by Pan

As per dumping in...if his salinty is 1.022 and the stores is 1.025 or 1.026 then simply dumping is foolhardy...if his is higher then it is a bit less shock, but if his is lower than the stores i would say dumping them in is bad advice.

Well, that was the point of a lot of the comments, the differences that work for people. I always dump, regardless of salinity. Fish are a lot tougher than we give them credit for...not bad advice, just different..

[Pan]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Well, that was the point of a lot of the comments, the differences that work for people. I always dump, regardless of salinity. Fish are a lot tougher than we give them credit for...not bad advice, just different..

then when doing hypo treatments you would not have to slowly increase salinity..hmm..

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by Pan

then when doing hypo treatments you would not have to slowly increase salinity..hmm..

Well, your probably right, but let's not tell my fish, ok They think they're fine..

[Pan]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Well, your probably right, but let's not tell my fish, ok They think they're fine..

Just like most people....they think they are fine as well...little do they know...

[Fox]

I hope no one took me seriously on the water softener salt...hehehe

The official word on the salt is Coralife Scientific grade Marine salt. It's almost an empty bag and once its done I have a big tub of instant ocean sea salt that I bought on boxing day...

Now for the bad news...I tore up the tank and found no trace of the dragon goby...He was pretty darn small to begin with so I cant say that I am surprised...My cleaner shrimp hopefully made short work of em...

I like the new look of the tank even though my anemone doesn't...he is all angry now just keeps pacing the current...hehe

[Dolf]

I will agree with much of what has been said. You are keeping inverts successfully, so you are doing something right. One major issue is the accuracy of the equipment you are using. If the test is faulty then the actions that you take to correct a problem is going to cause problems instead of fix them. Be sure of the equipment / tests you are using. I think earlier on somebody had offered to come test your water. Take them up on the offer- they may spot something else that nobody has noticed and that you could only see in person.

Next, as to a million different suggestions- you will find that in this hobby. Everybody has their own way of doing things from those who use no skimmer to those who use Zeovit. Neither is wrong. How to acclimatize fish? Well, on both sides you will find people very adamant that their way is the “right” way. Try to remember that neither will kill everything you put in the tank or nobody would follow it. It is like that with most disagreements. Drip or don’t- one may cause slightly less stress- but neither will guarantee dead stock (but do keep an eye on the temperature.)

R/O water- nice but if you are doing 15% changes not a requirement. Not using it may cause some other issues with algae or the likes- but as has been mentioned- many people are successful without. It may not be ideal- but keeping saltwater fish was popular (though slightly more difficult) before every home “needed” a filter- and the last tank that I kept I did not use R/O and I did not do huge water changes. Nothing was what I would consider stressed or unhealthy.

Finally, concerning issues such as S.G and temperature, I use http://www.ronshimek.com/reef_aquaria.html In the article on salinity / temperature he gives the actual temperatures and salinity of the ocean around the world. I don’t know if he outright states what is best- but if you can think he does make it so you can draw your own conclusions. Then you just have to be confident that you are providing the best conditions that you can and that most closely match natural conditions and ignore any well meaning advice. Good luck.

[Canadian]

There are pockets of variable salinity water near river outlets into the ocean that fish swim past and don't suddenly start floating. Fish can deal with the salinity changes much more readily than they can deal with toxic conditions.

Slow acclimation exposes the fish to low pH in the presence of increased ammonia making it more toxic. Additionally, slow acclimation exposes the fish to water low in O2 as it stagnates.

If the large swing in SG was dangerous you'd think those of us who float, cut and dump would have lost some fish - but it hasn't happened.

Originally Posted by Pan

then when doing hypo treatments you would not have to slowly increase salinity..hmm..

[Pan]

Originally Posted by Canadian

There are pockets of variable salinity water near river outlets into the ocean that fish swim past and don't suddenly start floating. Fish can deal with the salinity changes much more readily than they can deal with toxic conditions.

Slow acclimation exposes the fish to low pH in the presence of increased ammonia making it more toxic. Additionally, slow acclimation exposes the fish to water low in O2 as it stagnates.

If the large swing in SG was dangerous you'd think those of us who float, cut and dump would have lost some fish - but it hasn't happened.

yeah...kinda what the message said...was more of a hmm good then a hmm bad...