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Old 03-11-2009, 04:40 AM
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I know that there is very little any of us can say as to those who put their life on the line. To you and your comrades you have my support and admiration.

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Old 03-11-2009, 04:46 AM
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Doesn't seem like nearly enough considering everything you do and go through down there.
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:17 AM
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Wow, even for an 8 hour DESK day job that would be low...let alone a job where you risk your life and are on call 24/7

Two of my cousins are in the US army and US Airforce respectively. One was recently killed on the ground in Iraq (after being there on and off for 5 years now) and the other was actually just telling me about how relatively little he gets paid as a pilot! ...so its not just a Canadian thing.
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It really is pretty sad that you guy's are not paid better for the job you do.
Some how we have our priorities pretty screwed up. The part that really gets
me is if you are killed god for bid. How well is your family taken care of financially.
My brother was a Marine and it was Dang sad!!!!! Can you just up and not go!
Or is it called going awall????? At least your back in one piece.
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:27 AM
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This post is directed at the general population, not asmodeus in particular:

Sorry to point it out, but if you don't like your work's monetary compensation (talking to everyone here not just asmodeus), why don't you get a different job?

Honestly, I think there are too many people in this world that want everything for nothing. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices to get what you want (whether that be monetary or otherwise). I gave up practically my entire life for the winter so I could work on the oil rigs and make some good cash so I can do a few things I've wanted to do for a long time (like travel). The winter has been long and tough with very few days off, little thanks, and I work crazy hours (one of many stretches was 13 hours sleep in 10 days), but it has paid off for me. If it didn't give me what I was after (in my case monetary gain) I wouldn't be doing it.

I don't believe the Canadian military should have a presence in Iraq right now, so I have a hard time supporting our government paying a large amount to the troops. I understand that asmodeus probably works physically quite hard, for this I have a lot of respect to anyone, and believe there should be decent monetary gain by doing so (just not in Iraq eep).

Oops, I think I opened a can of worms.

Asmodeus...by the looks of your tank and its inhabitants and equipment, (really nice!!) it doesn't look like you're doing really all that bad financially.
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:47 AM
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aaanndd When you say you want to travel, travel where? I have a friend who left
the middle east and if you heard about all the suffering they indure. They are not
free to travel as we are. It is not safe anywhere, it is changing everything. And I
think it is good they go!! And when Canada is targeted by terrorist should we just
stick our heads back in the sand, and pretend it it someone else's problem? Yes it
is sad that they have to go, but thank goddess their are people who do.
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what a joke?
considering anything could happen, even if you were sleeping, that it should be calculated at a 24 hour rate by AND for you.
at the very least, it seems from posts I have read from you in the past that you like your job and get some personal value out of it...
Unless I read them wrong, I think that counts for something.


some days I make a lot of money per hour, but I hate it 80% of the time....
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This post is directed at the general population, not asmodeus in particular:

Sorry to point it out, but if you don't like your work's monetary compensation (talking to everyone here not just asmodeus), why don't you get a different job?

Honestly, I think there are too many people in this world that want everything for nothing. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices to get what you want (whether that be monetary or otherwise). I gave up practically my entire life for the winter so I could work on the oil rigs and make some good cash so I can do a few things I've wanted to do for a long time (like travel). The winter has been long and tough with very few days off, little thanks, and I work crazy hours (one of many stretches was 13 hours sleep in 10 days), but it has paid off for me. If it didn't give me what I was after (in my case monetary gain) I wouldn't be doing it.

I don't believe the Canadian military should have a presence in Iraq right now, so I have a hard time supporting our government paying a large amount to the troops. I understand that asmodeus probably works physically quite hard, for this I have a lot of respect to anyone, and believe there should be decent monetary gain by doing so (just not in Iraq eep).

Oops, I think I opened a can of worms.

Asmodeus...by the looks of your tank and its inhabitants and equipment, (really nice!!) it doesn't look like you're doing really all that bad financially.
Well my friend well said to a point however the Canadian army isn’t in Iraq, we are in Afghanistan
My tank is like the way is it due to the time and effort that i put into it over the last 7 years from watching other people make mistakes and not doing what they have done. And a lot of time and patience
To the money thing. I have 20 yrs in the Forces and put my self to the limits all the time. I’m 39 soon to be 40 yrs old this April 24th and I’m in a lot better shape then a lot of young soldiers in out unit. Now that where I'm at now my pay is pretty good. However I was stating that the Army does not get a lot of extra money for going over Sea's. Yes we don’t get to pay taxes for 6 months while we are deployed there. However the troops that are in battle there should see a lot more extra's for putting their life on the line every time that they are out side the wire. Making that little extra doesn’t make that much of a huge difference. Soyour comment about the tank really has no bearing on my over sea pay. A lot of civilian people don’t have a clue what training that we go thru to end up before deploying over sea for 7 months at a time. I’m not here to point fingers at you so you know that. It takes around 134 months to be operational ready to deploy of to Afghanistan. there is a lot of time away from your families too. But what I was getting at was for 77 dollars extra per day,
You are away from your family,
Alone,
Shot at,
Shitty boil in the bag food,
Showers may be 10 in 7 months,
Get blown up,
Killed
Watching a buddy get shot,
You get shot.
Having a life altering decisions to make
Having post dramatic stress disorder. AKA PDSD
All for that extra money
or 77 dollars per day.
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Old 03-11-2009, 03:39 PM
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Well my friend well said to a point however the Canadian army isn’t in Iraq, we are in Afghanistan
My tank is like the way is it due to the time and effort that i put into it over the last 7 years from watching other people make mistakes and not doing what they have done. And a lot of time and patience
To the money thing. I have 20 yrs in the Forces and put my self to the limits all the time. I’m 39 soon to be 40 yrs old this April 24th and I’m in a lot better shape then a lot of young soldiers in out unit. Now that where I'm at now my pay is pretty good. However I was stating that the Army does not get a lot of extra money for going over Sea's. Yes we don’t get to pay taxes for 6 months while we are deployed there. However the troops that are in battle there should see a lot more extra's for putting their life on the line every time that they are out side the wire. Making that little extra doesn’t make that much of a huge difference. Soyour comment about the tank really has no bearing on my over sea pay. A lot of civilian people don’t have a clue what training that we go thru to end up before deploying over sea for 7 months at a time. I’m not here to point fingers at you so you know that. It takes around 134 months to be operational ready to deploy of to Afghanistan. there is a lot of time away from your families too. But what I was getting at was for 77 dollars extra per day,
You are away from your family,
Alone,
Shot at,
Shitty boil in the bag food,
Showers may be 10 in 7 months,
Get blown up,
Killed
Watching a buddy get shot,
You get shot.
Having a life altering decisions to make
Having post dramatic stress disorder. AKA PDSD
All for that extra money
or 77 dollars per day.
Sorry, I failed geography, but I did well in political sciences. I couldn't even name all the countries in the Middle East and Asia.

I am glad there are people willing to be a part of the Canadian Forces, and risking your life should definately be worth something, but I can't support the decisions our Canadian government has made to support the USA in their fight. That is the US's fight, and they are quite capable of dealing with it themselves. The only reason Canada is there is brown-nosing for the USA because we need the USA for protection from the rest of the world. Why do you think no countries have ever tried invading Canada?

What you do is NOT what I am against, what you do is priceless, BUT it is also a decision you have made. If it is not bringing in what you want from it, don't do it. You can't be complaining about work you have chosen to do on your own accord. If you weren't willing to take the risks, you wouldn't be there. I don't have much sympathy for people who complain about their field of work, no matter what it is. If you don't like it, change it!!

134 months is well over 10 years, I know people that are in Afganistan (and Iraq actually) right now that are in their 20s, so I don't know how you can say it takes 134 months to be operational ready to deploy??

As far as your tank goes...it is not 7 years old. You may have 7 years of research, but that didn't pay for it, and it didn't take you 7 years to pay for it. My point about that is simply that the Canadian Forces are paid well.
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Well my friend well said to a point however the Canadian army isn’t in Iraq, we are in Afghanistan
My tank is like the way is it due to the time and effort that i put into it over the last 7 years from watching other people make mistakes and not doing what they have done. And a lot of time and patience
To the money thing. I have 20 yrs in the Forces and put my self to the limits all the time. I’m 39 soon to be 40 yrs old this April 24th and I’m in a lot better shape then a lot of young soldiers in out unit. Now that where I'm at now my pay is pretty good. However I was stating that the Army does not get a lot of extra money for going over Sea's. Yes we don’t get to pay taxes for 6 months while we are deployed there. However the troops that are in battle there should see a lot more extra's for putting their life on the line every time that they are out side the wire. Making that little extra doesn’t make that much of a huge difference. Soyour comment about the tank really has no bearing on my over sea pay. A lot of civilian people don’t have a clue what training that we go thru to end up before deploying over sea for 7 months at a time. I’m not here to point fingers at you so you know that. It takes around 134 months to be operational ready to deploy of to Afghanistan. there is a lot of time away from your families too. But what I was getting at was for 77 dollars extra per day,
You are away from your family,
Alone,
Shot at,
Shitty boil in the bag food,
Showers may be 10 in 7 months,
Get blown up,
Killed
Watching a buddy get shot,
You get shot.
Having a life altering decisions to make
Having post dramatic stress disorder. AKA PDSD
All for that extra money
or 77 dollars per day.
JOINED THE ARMY...duh
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