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Old 03-10-2009, 04:08 PM
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What's the TDS of your tap water?

Can you take a picture of your unit (oh that sounds bad!! ), or provide a link to your exact one? As hillegom pointed out, I'm wondering if you have confused the DI cartirdges for particulate and carbon filters. The order should be: particulate, carbon, RO, DI. Once the water passes through the RO it should not be greater than 20ppm or it will exhaust the DI resin very quickly, and will not get it down to 0 ppm TDS. Try disconnecting the hose feed between the RO and the DI and test the water coming out of there (collect it in a clean cup for ease of testing). If it is greater than 20 ppm or approaching 20ppm I would suggest you add a second RO cartridge. This would probably only be a problem if your tap water has really high TDS which is very possible where you live.

EDIT: You have a 7 stage filter system? There is no reason to have a system that large for tap water with a TDS of 50 ppm. My tap water is 90-95 ppm, and my 4 stage (particle, carbon, RO, DI) gets my product water to 0 ppm TDS. I am wondering if your adjustable flow restrictor is faulty...I have never seen one of those before, and I am leary about how it may work.
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I will try to supply a picture when I go home for lunch.
I have the order exactly as you stated below. It is possible that I exhausted the DI resin because I did not change the membrane at the same time I changed the resin and particulate filters, but the guy from Aquasafe said the membrane should last for 12-24 months.

I will also test the raw water and the water after the membrane.
It is a 7 stage filter, if I understand correctly. There are three canister filters, followed by the RO membrane, followed by three DI canisters.
I agree with your comments on this adjustable flow restrictor. It is a real pita to set correctly. What kind of system are you using?


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What's the TDS of your tap water?

Can you take a picture of your unit (oh that sounds bad!! ), or provide a link to your exact one? As hillegom pointed out, I'm wondering if you have confused the DI cartirdges for particulate and carbon filters. The order should be: particulate, carbon, RO, DI. Once the water passes through the RO it should not be greater than 20ppm or it will exhaust the DI resin very quickly, and will not get it down to 0 ppm TDS. Try disconnecting the hose feed between the RO and the DI and test the water coming out of there (collect it in a clean cup for ease of testing). If it is greater than 20 ppm or approaching 20ppm I would suggest you add a second RO cartridge. This would probably only be a problem if your tap water has really high TDS which is very possible where you live.

EDIT: You have a 7 stage filter system? There is no reason to have a system that large for tap water with a TDS of 50 ppm. My tap water is 90-95 ppm, and my 4 stage (particle, carbon, RO, DI) gets my product water to 0 ppm TDS. I am wondering if your adjustable flow restrictor is faulty...I have never seen one of those before, and I am leary about how it may work.
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I will try to supply a picture when I go home for lunch.
I have the order exactly as you stated below. It is possible that I exhausted the DI resin because I did not change the membrane at the same time I changed the resin and particulate filters, but the guy from Aquasafe said the membrane should last for 12-24 months.

I will also test the raw water and the water after the membrane.
It is a 7 stage filter, if I understand correctly. There are three canister filters, followed by the RO membrane, followed by three DI canisters.
I agree with your comments on this adjustable flow restrictor. It is a real pita to set correctly. What kind of system are you using?
I have an AquaFX Barracuda 4 stage was $180 I think. Your first three cartridges (I'm assuming one particulate and two carbons?) should be changed every 6 months no matter what. The RO should last the longest, but it's hard to pinpoint how long it will last. Be sure when you do replace it that you replace the first three just before replacing the RO. The DIs will last varying amounts of time as well given how much TDS is reaching them. Measure the TDS of the water after the RO but before the DIs as I described above, and the tap water, and we can go from there.
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When you change your particle and carbon filters, disconnect the feed line to the RO.
After the filters are changed, flush water through and catch the effluent. A lot of times, the water will have small particles of carbon "dust" that could screw up the RO membrane and/or the flow restrictor. When the effluent, is clear, shut off the water and reconnect the line to your RO. Possibly, you have some small particles stuck where they should not be
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Forgot to mention, if you have an incoming TDI of 50, a reading of 0 output is easily attainable.
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When you change your particle and carbon filters, disconnect the feed line to the RO.
After the filters are changed, flush water through and catch the effluent. A lot of times, the water will have small particles of carbon "dust" that could screw up the RO membrane and/or the flow restrictor. When the effluent, is clear, shut off the water and reconnect the line to your RO. Possibly, you have some small particles stuck where they should not be
What he said. I should have mentioned that...sorry.
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Apparently my memory is not what it once was, or maybe it never was....anyways my raw water is 276. TDS after the RO membrane is 20.
I did not have time to take a picture, but from the instructions it is a 5 stage system:
  1. 5 micron sediment
  2. Carbon
  3. 5 micron coconut carbon
  4. RO membrane
  5. DI cartridges (3)

At the beginning it was reducing TDS to 0.
When I changed the carbon and sediment filters, and the DI resin, I did not change the RO membrane, nor did I disconnect and flush the filters.

Is my RP membrane ruined, or can I flush it out? As I said previously, I am also having trouble with the flow restrictor so I guess it is also screwed up. Your explanations would explain the problem.
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Have the Aqua-safe also.

With a TDS of 20 after the RO would say it's okay but your DI is probably exhausted.

If your still running the post carbon after the DI, it could be the cause of the TDS not zero. Do you have the bladder, because if that wasn't drained, might be a cause also.

Diagram here

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