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Old 02-27-2009, 04:09 PM
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My Alk kit is not brand new, but I don't think it's older than 6 months. So I have no idea the vintage of mine. It is a 5ml sample, does the newer one call for a different sample size?

If it turns out Elos is the cause of my SPS issues I will never touch the brand again and warn people off from using it until my dying breath. I cannot believe the lack of quality assurance with this brand. Easy to use, maybe, but the contradictory instructions is not a first with them, my Mg test kit is the same. The printed instructions say 1 drop = 100ppm, the printed card has a sticker on it that says 1 drop = 75ppm (suggesting the card was first printed wrong and they corrected it with a sticker instead of reprinting).
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Old 02-27-2009, 04:12 PM
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Well you know how it is Tony, these companies are probly run by one dude or something, and that one guy is frantically putting stickers on the quick info cards . Look what happened when that Habib guy from Salifert got sick. Their whole production line died it seemed and nobody could even get the test kits.
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Old 02-27-2009, 04:28 PM
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My Alk kit is not brand new, but I don't think it's older than 6 months. So I have no idea the vintage of mine. It is a 5ml sample, does the newer one call for a different sample size?

If it turns out Elos is the cause of my SPS issues I will never touch the brand again and warn people off from using it until my dying breath. I cannot believe the lack of quality assurance with this brand. Easy to use, maybe, but the contradictory instructions is not a first with them, my Mg test kit is the same. The printed instructions say 1 drop = 100ppm, the printed card has a sticker on it that says 1 drop = 75ppm (suggesting the card was first printed wrong and they corrected it with a sticker instead of reprinting).

Hey Tony

Check your paper instruction against the quick card instructions see if they both say 1 drop per dkh. If they do then you are doing it correctly if they are different then you have the new test kit and it is only .5 dkh per drop.

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They also butchered their nitrate test kit a while ago where the 0 nitrate color was transparent but in reality the solution was orange.

I've chosen to stop using them because I can't justify the price and lack of consistency despite their claims of superiority.
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..............I've chosen to stop using them because I can't justify the price and lack of consistency despite their claims of superiority.

So which brand do you use now?
Anyone have the Elos Ca test procedure?

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... I've chosen to stop using them [Elos] because I can't justify the price and lack of consistency despite their claims of superiority.
Agreed. I'm progressively switching back to Salifert. For some reason, I got it in my head that Salifert were no longer being manufactured, hence J&L slowly selling them off. But I see OA still sells them, so I obviously misunderstood that somehow. Until Elos gets their crap together, I'm a Salifert guy.

Edit: There was a problem with PO4 kit vials, too. The 5ml line was not exactly at 5ml. So if you didn't know it, and didn't know to just ignore it and go with the syringe 5ml line, you'd get an incorrect result. Many, many Elos issues, it seems.

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Old 02-27-2009, 08:56 PM
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I just bought a new KH test kit yesterday,My old one is about 8 mounths old and says 1 drop = 1 KH. The new one says 1 drop= .5 KH.
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Default Thanks for all the information guys

I will see if i can figure it out. Just got a used one with my tank setup so it never came with a manual. I will test later.

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Old 03-02-2009, 05:26 PM
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Default Calcium and Magnesium Elos test

Hey Guys

Can someone tell me the calcium test kit procedure along with Magnesium? I have and A, B (powder) C reagents but don't know how many drops to add of A or C.

any help would be great

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Old 03-02-2009, 05:44 PM
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For magnesium 3 ml water, 9 drops A, shake, small spoon 0.15 B(powder), shake, count drops of C till color change, For old kit multiply times 100, newer kit multiply times 75
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