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Old 02-20-2009, 08:02 PM
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Ok look at it another way, if you had a tank like that would you put a product in it that did not work?
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Why would anyone put something in there tank that wouldn't work?
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Old 02-20-2009, 08:09 PM
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Ok I understand you want to see this tank from scratch so here is the full tank build thread,

http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/s...d.php?t=146812

I also should state, I have met Simon, he is highly respected in the UK network and would only use products that worked.

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Old 02-20-2009, 10:48 PM
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Ok I understand you want to see this tank from scratch so here is the full tank build thread,

http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/s...d.php?t=146812

I also should state, I have met Simon, he is highly respected in the UK network and would only use products that worked.
Everyone who puts something into their tank is coming to claim this

Just look at the support for products like purple up or people who think aragonite is going to dissolve in their tanks...
Not saying that the 'ol Lith doesn't work, I use zeovit and i swear when i open the bottles i smell vineger and vodka..i think even if they don't work they provide enough illusion that they work which forces the users to do the most crucial part of a great reef...regular orderly upkeep and maintenance. <--which i think is the key to a great reef...most totm caliber tanks have all this in common. But there are a lot of totm caliber tanks that do lousy maintence (if they are telling the truth) so who knows. I don't think it can hurt a tank...and it probably does help....the degree to which it helps though is honestly only able to be judged if you use said system (zeo, lith whatever)

Since using zeo i've noticed changes that were not there before...is this zeovit doing it? I dunno, but i like what is happening so i continue to use it.
There are simply too many variables i think in reefkeeping to say 100% yes or no to this type of product. With my own personal experiences in zeovit compared to others...some get bad cyano...i get none of that...etc. I think one needs to experiment on ones tank in order to gauge the effectiveness of any product, the amount of experimenting you are willing to do is...well up to you. To claim that using ultralith your tank will look like the guy in the uk is false advertisement i think....would be better to say it has the potential to look like that (of which i have no real doubt it couldn't...given time)

Hope that made sense....I'm bust reading adorno for a paper..and a little zonked.
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Old 02-20-2009, 10:51 PM
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As i said, try it and see, there are two reviews on fauna going at present on canreef, have a look at them then decide.

Sometimes the only way of actually convincing the doubters is by them using the product.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Well I have tried many things and said YEs its great or Yes what a waste of money. Now I’m chiming in to tell you what I think yes im trialing this stuff and yes i will tell you what I truly think I don’t kick ass or suck up to people to get free stuff or waste money on products to say hey look at me.

Now everyone here is saying well let’s see why it’s good, let’s see some BEFORE and after pictures. Ok we get that you want to see every pic with ungodly growth when you ask for a certain date then you will get a before and after pic.
OH LOOK AT THIS THEN
When you buy a bulb for your tank say a mega chrome 13.5K and you put it in and the color is not blue its actually White, wow I can't believe that i spend 120 dollars on this bulb to find out that it doesn’t work. Man this was a waste of money I won’t buy that again right.
Ok so people chime on here on this thread to ask well what is great about it? Does it work? Email Mike to ask him how much to get your tank going for just the basic's

Mike is a sponsor here to help out with the hobby in getting us top notch stuff for out tanks. Of course he is hoping that everyone is going to buy the Fauna Marin. That would make his day. However everyone has their own decisions on spending their tanks.
Just like getting a skimmer I think that I have the most time on every type of skimmer going WHY so that I can explain my opinions and experiences on that skimmer.. so when someone asks me a question I can give them the right answer saying that it’s going to work great.
Trust me I don’t kiss Ass nor do I work for free stuff, I believe in word of mouth. trust has a lot to do with it and letting people know that things work for certain reasons. I hope that people do respect me for who I am and what I know. When A moderator comes out and says don’t do this for this reason we want to try to believe him /her for that reason that the mods are the people best trained for the job and have touched base in alot of mistakes so we don’t have to rehash them again.

All I can tell you is that i seen the feelers out for some to trial the fauna Marin with clams. So I PM mike and told him about my clams and if he wanted to i wouldn’t mind to try his product. I knew getting into it was a huge risk when if my tank crashed from the stuff. WELL I took a shot at it tried the clam food for about 2-3 weeks and noticed that the SPs were reacting to the food too. Hmmmmmmmmmm that was weird ten I told him about my PO4 and the Nitrates he sent me out the UTLRA Bak and the BIo later on for deal with them.
Well it’s been since JAN 16th since I started. and my Nitrates went from 20 to 5 and the PO 4 went from 0.05 to ZERO. So for my tank it worked and it’s making my SPS color up nicely. I don't know what else if you are willing to spend 20-30 on food stop and spend that on some UTLRA CLAM FOOD and some ULTRA MIN S to mix with the clam food.

If the So called CLam food and the MIn S doesnt work for you then you can come on here state your opinion and then you have a reason to state on why it’s a waste of money.

I ask to get my clams looking good and I got SPS growth and great looking colors and my NITRATES and PHOSPHATES gone. So I’m happy once I get going I’m going to do the balling method.
But let me ask you how did Tunze get out to be so good then if no one tried it, hmmmmmmm some one must of used it and then told us about it right, SO I’m here to tell you this stuff its not to bad I like it and I’m only using the basics I haven’t touch the reactor for it and the ultra lith yet or the trace elements .
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and some one just hit it on the nose every one that is asking about this product has or is running ZEO or prolabs. Am I correct
http://vimeo.com/3301959?pg=transcod...ed&sec=3301959
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Ok look at it another way, if you had a tank like that would you put a product in it that did not work?
if you had a tank like that and put something in it that didn't work, how would you know it wasn't working?
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Lack of growth, poor colour, just to name two.

Tanks of that nature are rarely possible without LNF dosing. He was asked to review the product, Simon is not daft he is not going to put something in his tank he thinks would not benefit a system as dedicated as this

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I just saw a "tank of that nature" last week. Not the huge size/colonies but certainly the color. Spectacular colors without the ULNS. Not to knock your product, I tried it and it worked wonders on my brown wafer algae. I was rid of that plague after 4 months, it was awesome.
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