To zeo or not to zeo

[Pan]

Originally Posted by digital-audiophile

With all due respect to the guru's on the zeo forum, I think even with the help of some of those people it's still up to trial and error with your own tank. It's hard to make a good dosing regime by just looking at a few stats about water volume and a few test results.

When I ran zeo the first time my tank was amazing, I loved zeo as the water was so clear. Now running the second time I am not having the same great results and I was following the exact same dosing plan I did before. I have been adjusting my dosing a bit on my own.

Yes this is a good point as well, I asked on the forum and then afterwords adjusted according to how my tank ran. I mostly want their input as to what they think i would need, but every good reefer tailors what they do to their tanks specifically to THEIR tanks...even two tanks in the same house will be completely different, unless they are plumbed in. I am still not sold on whether or not it is the zeo or due dilligence on my part that is makig my tank look good. I am going to start dosing some zeospur and will find out.

[Pan]

Originally Posted by christyf5

I know! I'm completely baffled.

Ok so currently they have me on

Start2 0.25ml 2x's/day daily
Bak 4 drops 3x week
SP 4 drops 3x week
Coral snow 2ml 2x week
LPSAA 1-2ml daily (I just eyeball it in the cap)
PIF 2 drops daily
CV 2 drops 3x week

From my limited experience with zeo I bet if you stop the amino dosing you'll notice a drop

[Johnny Reefer]

Originally Posted by digital-audiophile

With all due respect to the guru's on the zeo forum, I think even with the help of some of those people it's still up to trial and error with your own tank. It's hard to make a good dosing regime by just looking at a few stats about water volume and a few test results.

When I ran zeo the first time my tank was amazing, I loved zeo as the water was so clear. Now running the second time I am not having the same great results and I was following the exact same dosing plan I did before. I have been adjusting my dosing a bit on my own.

Well, it's a bit more than just water volume and test results that they ask, but yes, this is a good point. No two tanks are the same and trial and error certainly might come into play. I guess I got lucky. I should also mention that, IME I did not follow the guru's advice exactly. I dosed, and continue to do so, some other additives over and above the "starting" regime that they "prescribed". The decision to dose the additional additives during start-up was based on discussions with my LFS. Piece meal bits of info from here and there. One of the things that makes this message board great.

In your case, I'm wondering....nothing changed in between?

[Pan]

Originally Posted by Pan

From my limited experience with zeo I bet if you stop the amino dosing you'll notice a drop

I do also run kent de-nitrate Always have, always will nitrates never go above 0...ever

[christyf5]

Originally Posted by Pan

From my limited experience with zeo I bet if you stop the amino dosing you'll notice a drop

Sadly nitrates were 20 before I started with the amino dosing. I've started using nitrate destroyer to see if I can lower it with that.

[Pan]

Originally Posted by christyf5

Sadly nitrates were 20 before I started with the amino dosing. I've started using nitrate destroyer to see if I can lower it with that.

Oh

Good Luck though If you have a cannister try the de-nitrate...it does work...a hassle but it works

[RuGlu6]

Originally Posted by Edmonton Eskimo

I hate zeo. Let me explain. I started zeo in december and everything was fine for the first couple weeks and then my montis started dieing and then my acros started to brown out. Not all of them though just most of my nice ones. I followed the guide but misinterpreted it I guess. I started with about 60% of the zeolites as suggested for starting out and ran it on the 3hr on/off cycle, also as suggested in the zeoguide. Nothing was stated to dose less so I dosed as per a nutrient rich tank starting out. That was apparently my problem. The dosing seems to be directly linked to how much zeolites used and not necessarily water volume. Anyways, I tried to correct the problem but still I lost about half my corals and I'm not very pleased at all. I always have considered myself to be very diligent in following directions and that's what I did. I followed the zeoguide almost to the letter so I think it needs to be added to, to include more variables especially when starting out on it, as this is the most crucial(and dangerous)time.

Yes,same here, i mean i say big NO to Zeo, almost identical to the above , i had an established tank and after Zeo i lost $450 worth of SPS in 4 days.

[Dolf]

I am trying to figure out two things... whey would anybody dose Zeo? I can not find what they put in the product and can't find anything aside from marketing literature when it comes to the product. Yes- lots of anecdotal “my tank is much better with Zeo than without” statements- but very little scientific. As to the idea that they grow faster- is that really a positive side effect? From what I recall reading SPS in home aquariums grow much more porous, light weight and brittle than their counterparts on a reef and encouraging faster growth does not necessarily equate to “better” corals, does it? Does anybody have any links to anything scientific and hopefully peer reviewed? It strikes me that for a company that could be bottling water with iodine in it and selling it for a staggering amount they must do some research.

[Jason McK]

Originally Posted by Dolf

I am trying to figure out two things... whey would anybody dose Zeo? I can not find what they put in the product and can't find anything aside from marketing literature when it comes to the product. Yes- lots of anecdotal “my tank is much better with Zeo than without” statements- but very little scientific. As to the idea that they grow faster- is that really a positive side effect? From what I recall reading SPS in home aquariums grow much more porous, light weight and brittle than their counterparts on a reef and encouraging faster growth does not necessarily equate to “better” corals, does it? Does anybody have any links to anything scientific and hopefully peer reviewed? It strikes me that for a company that could be bottling water with iodine in it and selling it for a staggering amount they must do some research.

It would appear that you have put little effort into your search for information o Zeovit. There is a ton of Scientific information out there. Zeovit or for that matter any bacteria based system is built on nutrient reduction not coral growth.

[lorenz0]

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