Ups burns me again

[fragNplug]

reasons like this make me glad to live in a city with local retailers.

[castaway]

UPS is the worst delivery service for anything not only livestock.
Google UPS and read some of the horror stories.
I have a 65 Corvair and get alot of parts out of the states if the vender says he ships via UPS I don't buy from them. They screw up and still charge ridiculous fees.

[Ryan]

Its the middle of winter what did you expect? This si why you fly live animals inculding coral. IMO you brought this on yourself.

[The Codfather]

Ryan,
When the parcel sits in an unheated van for over 12 hrs, and ups does not call on arrival, i hardly see how this is our problem. Your statement is ignorant. We pay for shipping, they should do thier job.
Bob

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by The Codfather

Ryan,
When the parcel sits in an unheated van for over 12 hrs, and ups does not call on arrival, i hardly see how this is our problem. Your statement is ignorant. We pay for shipping, they should do thier job.
Bob

Why would you ship in an unheated van? What do you think would happen? Once again its the buyers fault for even thinking that your parcel will last that long.

But what was the shipper thinking?? Why not put a couple 20 or 30 or 40 hour heat packs in there to keep it warm?

[scorpio73]

There was 2 20 hr heat pads ryan and the packing wasn t the issue ups shipping was and lost 2 shipment in spring and summer due to they dropped off at wrong house and lost the order another time so time of year really not an issue the shippment should have be delivered or i should have been contacted when it arrived at 12 hrs after shipped while it drove around for 12 more hrs in a van .
I have better luck in the winter due to caution people take alot of care in the packing ect have order as far as Ontario in the winter and have had no losses

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by scorpio73

There was 2 20 hr heat pads ryan and the packing wasn t the issue ups shipping was and lost 2 shipment in spring and summer due to they dropped off at wrong house and lost the order another time so time of year really not an issue the shippment should have be delivered or i should have been contacted when it arrived at 12 hrs after shipped while it drove around for 12 more hrs in a van .
I have better luck in the winter due to caution people take alot of care in the packing ect have order as far as Ontario in the winter and have had no losses

Hmm 12 hrs plus 12 more hours is 24 hours. Nope shoulda used 40 hr heat packs. Its a risk you take in the dead of winter. Next time fly them in heated cargo and you wouldnt need to whine and complain about how you got "burned".

[Snaz]

Moving ocean corals thousands of miles across land is unnatural enough, add the freezing temperatures of a Canadian Winter and well you cannot expect too much.

I think anyone ordering tropical specimens in the Winter must take some of the risk on themselves. Sorry if this angers but it is just the plain truth.

[Leah]

Having said that, I never, ever, ever, order in the winter, unless I am fully aware that if
it goes wrong, I can only blame moi. And yes flying is good but having said that be prepared to go and pick-up at whatever time. Where I live it is late when things arrive
so I leave them over night. But then again they are awesome and know me well.
Bottom line wait till weather is warmer that is my motto, can't even trust the people
who ship them. It sucks but that is the way it is. Oh and I have learned the hard way.

[Skimmerking]

Originally Posted by Ryan

Its the middle of winter what did you expect? This si why you fly live animals inculding coral. IMO you brought this on yourself.

Wow that was well said. you brought it on your self.