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Old 02-11-2009, 07:14 PM
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I agree, dosen't seem very ethical.

As bad as this sounds, with the exception of a few places, this hobby is very rarely blessed with ethical buisness people
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:26 PM
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J&L solaris lights have been on sale a long time. the sale was started on them because people were finding that LED lighting was not as good (or just as good... PAR comparison results are still unconfirmed i believe) as say metal halides and were far more expensive. the current patent issue with the LEDs and PFO was not the initial cause of the sale... just thought that should be stated.
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:55 PM
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Man just read through the actual lawsuit and you would be crazy to buy any LED aquarium lights at this point but especially the PFO units (even on sale)! Orbital Technologies Corporation has the patent to any and all LED lights made for marine aquarium use. There is no way PFO can win this lawsuit and just does not have the money to fight a corporation with $150 million in contrcts...these guys are not another relatively small aquarium company.

I feel bad for everyone who spent all that money on these things because up until now, they have been nothing but trouble and now the warranty will most likely not be valid

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Old 02-11-2009, 07:57 PM
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Anyone want to buy a 72" solaris light
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Old 02-11-2009, 07:59 PM
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Any suggestions on what to go with for a new light?
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Old 02-11-2009, 08:03 PM
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Any suggestions on what to go with for a new light?
So is your solaris not working anymore? Man that really sucks

I really do feel bad for you and everyone who is being screwed over by this. I almost bought one last year but ended up deciding to wait until more of the bugs were worked out. Now I am glad I did but at the same time, its sad to think this technology may never be used again. Its now up to one company if they ever want to reintroduce it to the market and they are NOT an aquarium company. Really too bad...
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Old 02-11-2009, 08:07 PM
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So is your solaris not working anymore? Man that really sucks

I really do feel bad for you and everyone who is being screwed over by this. I almost bought one last year but ended up deciding to wait until more of the bugs were worked out. Now I am glad I did but at the same time, its sad to think this technology may never be used again. Its now up to one company if they ever want to reintroduce it to the market and they are NOT an aquarium company. Really too bad...
It still works. I just dont want to have to wait for a new one to ship once the lights inevitably burn out or there is some other problem. If the light cant be maitained its not much use to me, its just a ticking time bomb.
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:03 PM
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J&L solaris lights have been on sale a long time. the sale was started on them because people were finding that LED lighting was not as good (or just as good... PAR comparison results are still unconfirmed i believe) as say metal halides and were far more expensive. the current patent issue with the LEDs and PFO was not the initial cause of the sale... just thought that should be stated.
Well said Justin. It's important not to careless imply a lack of ethics or honesty against any person/business without any proof thereof, especially on a large public forum. That itself could lead to lawsuits.
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yes.
the onus is on the consumer to prove dishonesty.
Just accept it all at face value...lol

It's one thing to outright make slanderous accusations, it's quite another to ask questions.

Believe me, I shop at JL a lot and am happy to give them my business, but at the end of the day thats all it is.
Business.

I believe in coincidences.
Sometimes.
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Old 02-11-2009, 09:39 PM
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I'm not slamming the company from what I haer they are a great company.

In my opininon the ethical thing for any buissiness to do when selling these lights is to tell people whats going on with the company before they drop major cash on something that may not have warranty anymore.

I think they did the right thing by pulling it off their site.

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