New Cleaner Wrasse

naesco · #1 01-30-2009, 06:23 AM

Like I said, several posters who have been successful will post.

Here is what a couple of expert fish authors have written.
Robert Fenner
This is the genus of obligate Cleaner Wrasses most celebrated for establishing stations in the wild that are frequented by "local" reef fishes and pelagics for removing parasites and necrotic tissue. Perhaps shocking to most aquarists, all the Labroides rate a dismal (3) in survivability, even the ubiquitously offered common or Blue Cleaner Wrasse, Labroides dimidiatus. None of the Labroides should be removed, not only for the fact that almost all perish within a few weeks of wild capture, but for the valuable role they play as cleaners.

Scott Michael
These wrasses are engaging fishes, but conscientious reef aquarists should refuse to purchase them.

I agree 100% with Osprey.

GreenSpottedPuffer · #2 01-30-2009, 06:30 AM

I have had three different ones now. First one lived in my tanks for three years before jumping

Second one lived with the first one for about 8 months before being eaten by a Lion fish (in front of me) and the current one is...I think 8 months too now and fine.

I do hear they can be hard to keep but I have found them to be easier than many other species of wrasse.

JDigital · #3 01-30-2009, 06:47 AM

I've only had one, and not by choice, that ended up in a tank too small with not nearly enough/large enough fish to clean, and died after about 6months. I really do think it would still be alive if it had been in a larger tank with more/bigger fish to clean/feed from.

I won't own another one for the simple fact that I think they are rather ugly fish.

Not because I don't think I could keep it alive "long term".

phillybean · #4 01-30-2009, 07:38 AM

I'll keep everyone updated on how it goes. Given how much he is eating, I do feel that I should be able to keep him alive. I think he is a awesome looking fish.

I have researched them in the past so I know the issues with them.

Every fish in the reef is important to it. I do not feel that the responsibility of buying only "certain" fish should be on us. If Robert Fenner and Scott Michael feel that they should not be purchases, they should deal with Whole Salers or even countries to ban the collection of them. The fact of the matter is, if a fish is in the store, healthy, eating and I feel that my tank will be a good fit for it and if I want it, I will buy it.

I prefer to purchase "aquacultured/bred" fish and corals whenever possible, however as we all know "aquabred" fish are not as common in the hobby as we would like to see. Given that such a small percentage of reefers are dedicated as much as the ones on Canreef, do research on the fish and strive to make their tank as fitting as possible for the creatures living in it, I feel good knowing that this fish has a better chance of surviving in my tank than it will in others.

naesco · #5 01-30-2009, 08:17 PM

Philybean posted
I do not feel that the responsibility of buying only "certain" fish should be on us. If Robert Fenner and Scott Michael feel that they should not be purchases, they should deal with Whole Salers or even countries to ban the collection of them. The fact of the matter is, if a fish is in the store, healthy, eating and I feel that my tank will be a good fit for it and if I want it, I will buy it.``

Fortunately, most reefers do not agree with you. Most reefers strive to obtain optimal conditions for the critters they keep.

IMO the responsibility to ensure that the fish/coral can reasonably survive in captive conditions is on you and only you.
Think about it!!

Madreefer · #6 01-30-2009, 08:36 PM

I had a problem with my six line beating up a leopard wrasse. I used a bottle trap with a mirror inside. The sixline was smart and would get out just as fast as he could swim in to it. So I cut another peice of plastic from another water bottle and put it in the trap and made a small hole for a peice of fishing line to tie to it. The other end of the line was outside of my tank. When he went inside I was able to pull on the fishing line which closes off his exit. The trap was in my tank for 4 days before I caught him. Once I rigged up this trap door with the fishing line I caught him within 5 minutes. Maybe make a bigger enterance hole and get him used to the trap, the mirror helped alot as it made him a little pi$$ed as he thought there was another sixline in the tank.

SATELLITE · #7 01-30-2009, 08:53 PM

i have a cleaner wrasse. had it for just over a year and i moved twice. still doing what he is doing and he is a tropper..

saltyrigger · #8 03-22-2009, 03:41 AM

I have had my cleaner wrasse for almost 5 and a half years now.Never had a problem

JDigital · #9 01-30-2009, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naesco

Philybean posted
I do not feel that the responsibility of buying only "certain" fish should be on us. If Robert Fenner and Scott Michael feel that they should not be purchases, they should deal with Whole Salers or even countries to ban the collection of them. The fact of the matter is, if a fish is in the store, healthy, eating and I feel that my tank will be a good fit for it and if I want it, I will buy it.``

Fortunately, most reefers do not agree with you. Most reefers strive to obtain optimal conditions for the critters they keep.

IMO the responsibility to ensure that the fish/coral can reasonably survive in captive conditions is on you and only you.
Think about it!!

Alot of our tanks are better homes for these fish than most LFS stores. Wouldn't you rather see a CW taken home and given much better conditions/chances of survival than those at a LFS. It's already out of the ocean, and no chance of going back, so yea there is more than the responsibility of ME to take action against collection. I'm not saying the systems at a LFS are horrible, but in comparison there is ALOT more "in/out" activity, greater stress levels, and ich/disease, than most of our tanks at home.

Think about it!!

Who's saying phillybean doesn't strive to keep his tank in good condition for the critters he keeps?? I don't remember seeing him mention anything about his "lack of husbandry".

There has already been a couple people mentioning they have kept them long-term (longer than you defined as Long-term)...

If you spent half as much time in the rest of the forum as you do here in "Marine Fish" policing the masses, I think we'd all drop dead of shock.

fishoholic · #10 01-30-2009, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDigital

Alot of our tanks are better homes for these fish than most LFS stores. Wouldn't you rather see a CW taken home and given much better conditions/chances of survival than those at a LFS. It's already out of the ocean, and no chance of going back, so yea there is more than the responsibility of ME to take action against collection. I'm not saying the systems at a LFS are horrible, but in comparison there is ALOT more "in/out" activity, greater stress levels, and ich/disease, than most of our tanks at home.

Think about it!!

Who's saying phillybean doesn't strive to keep his tank in good condition for the critters he keeps?? I don't remember seeing him mention anything about his "lack of husbandry".

There has already been a couple people mentioning they have kept them long-term (longer than you defined as Long-term)...

If you spent half as much time in the rest of the forum as you do here in "Marine Fish" policing the masses, I think we'd all drop dead of shock.

Good points