ZEOvit/200G Build Journal - 34G Solana

GreenSpottedPuffer · #1 01-28-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Reefer

I have used Chemi-Clean in the past (prior to Zeo), but I stopped about 8? months ago. I used to dose monthly. Then every two months. Then it became apparent that maybe I didn't need it at all anymore. Haven't had cyano in my Reef for awhile now.

Having said that, now that I am on Zeo, I have asked myself if I would use Chemi-Clean again if cyano returned. The answer is no, I wouldn't. For two reasons. 1). I think it would mess with the other Zeo supplements. 2). There is a Zeo routine for cyano. It's on page 23 of the guide. I think I would try that. Involves adding 1 drop, per 25g, of ZeoBac to Pohl's Coral Snow and dosing this every two days until cyano is gone. I'm not sure if the ZeoBac is the regular dose (just added to the Coral Snow) or in addition to the regular dose. The gurus on Zeovit.com would know. Of course, I would think removing most of the "bulk" cyano manually would go along way in helping this routine do it's job too.

Hope this helps,

I will check the guide but as I said above, I may just stop now. I know thats kind of quick and I don't like giving up so quickly but I was looking at the tank this morning (lights still out) and the cyano apparently doubled overnight and is all over my gorgonians and rocks.

I will take it out manually for now and think about what to do I guess.

GreenSpottedPuffer · #2 01-28-2009, 05:56 PM

Is ZEOstart just vinegar?

albert_dao · #3 01-28-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer

Is ZEOstart just vinegar?

No, it is a proprietary mix of acetic acids and other carbon sources which are formulated to nourish the manifold of bacterial strains found in ZeoBak.

If you replace it with straight vinegar/vodka/peach schnapps/Sunny Delight, bad things happen.

I'd definitely give the Coral Snow/ZeoBak thing a go. It will help the overall reduction of nutrient sinks.

GreenSpottedPuffer · #4 01-28-2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by albert_dao

No, it is a proprietary mix of acetic acids and other carbon sources which are formulated to nourish the manifold of bacterial strains found in ZeoBak.

If you replace it with straight vinegar/vodka/peach schnapps/Sunny Delight, bad things happen.

I'd definitely give the Coral Snow/ZeoBak thing a go. It will help the overall reduction of nutrient sinks.

Well obviously...I wasn't asking about replacing it with Sunny delight or vinegar for that matter.

But many, many people are getting similar results to ZEO with VSV dosing. And its MUCH cheaper.

Amyways...I will try the coral snow/bak thing. Thanks!

digital-audiophile · #5 01-28-2009, 08:06 PM

I found when I ran zeo for the very first time I had one hell of a cyano outbreak, seems to be a common thing. I dosed coral snow and it cleared it up.

Johnny Reefer · #6 01-28-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by digital-audiophile

I found when I ran zeo for the very first time I had one hell of a cyano outbreak, seems to be a common thing. I dosed coral snow and it cleared it up.

This may be why I didn't get cyano (at least, not yet). I've been dosing Coral Snow from the get go. 10ml daily, but I cut back a few weeks ago to 10ml once a week.

Cheers,

GreenSpottedPuffer · #7 01-28-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Reefer

This may be why I didn't get cyano (at least, not yet). I've been dosing Coral Snow from the get go. 10ml daily, but I cut back a few weeks ago to 10ml once a week.

Cheers,

What exactly IS the coral snow?

albert_dao · #8 01-28-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer

Well obviously...I wasn't asking about replacing it with Sunny delight or vinegar for that matter.

But many, many people are getting similar results to ZEO with VSV dosing. And its MUCH cheaper.

Amyways...I will try the coral snow/bak thing. Thanks!

:P

They'll get similar results as far as nutrient reduction goes. However, that is not the be all, end all of Zeovit (substate-based probiotic).

Later in the life cycle, you also the HUUUUUUUGE winfalls of pseudo-planktonic bacterial mulms which are released each time the media is agitated. This is the closest we can get to mimicking the natural bacterial-planktonic fauna found in the wild. Corals each this stuffffff. I've personally experienced massive polyp extension shortly after pumping a reactor, no doubt a response to the increased food stimuli in the water column.